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Thought Behind Things · Oct 6, 2021

Why Danish Hasan dropped out in his final semester

Filmmaker and content creator Danish Hasan on walking away from his engineering degree in the eighth semester, why he treats Pakistani universities as a broken system, how Bros Meets the World ran its course, and what a bike accident in Karachi taught him about who he actually wants to talk to.

with Danish Hasan

10 min read

A guest in a transitionary phase

The episode opens with Muzamil placing the conversation precisely. He has been following Danish Hasan’s work since the early YouTube food-channel days, and he says outright that the man sitting across from him is in a “transitionary space” — too talented to be where he is, and worth opening up to find out why. Danish has just turned 34. He has, by his own count, three days of being 34 under his belt.

Danish grew up in Saudi Arabia, did his schooling up to the eighth grade there, and finished his O- and A-levels in Karachi at a DHA public school. He did not get into the colleges he wanted. He describes the four years that followed as rolling down a long tunnel where he could only see darkness, until “it took me four years to kind of see a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.”

He landed at PAF-KIET — the Karachi Institute of Economics and Technology — to study engineering. The thing he says he took from college was not the engineering. It was a couple of close friendships and a first, partial glimpse of how authority figures behave. “Colleges, it’s all a social experience,” he tells Muzamil. The rest he calls “a very broken system that we’re forced into.”

The eighth-semester decision

The moment the conversation sharpens is the dropout. Danish walked away in his eighth semester, six or seven courses short of a degree. Muzamil pushes him on this in the way any Pakistani relative would: why not just finish? The last mile. The piece of paper.

Danish’s answer is the most considered argument in the episode, and it arrives as an Olympic-race analogy. A sprinter can run a near-perfect race and still tear a hamstring two seconds before the finish line. That does not make him a failure. It just means he did not win that particular race. “I looked at that race as a part of my life. I didn’t win that race. It’s okay. But I can’t keep going back to it.” He counts four years, five with the extra one he took, against an average lifespan of sixty-something. It is not nothing, but it is not everything.

He is also careful here. He acknowledges his privilege explicitly. “For me to say this is pretty easy, but for the person who has their whole family depending on them, can’t make that decision very easily.” Four siblings in his household work; his mother is an artist; his elder brother is an illustrator, animator, and game developer; another brother is a working director of photography on digital series; his sister is a doctor. The financial floor was there.

Muzamil draws out the deeper diagnosis. Pakistani students go to university for the piece of paper, not to expand the mind. Friends who studied in the US or Europe paired computer science with world history because they treated the institution as a mind-expanding instrument. “University for them is to expand their mind,” Muzamil says, “whereas university for us is a vocational training institute.” Danish agrees, and then sharpens it: “But it doesn’t even do that properly.”

Two months, two hundred dollars, and a way out

After dropping out, Danish did not have a plan. He had a problem: money. He went online, picked up Adobe Illustrator and vector design from scratch, and within two months had earned two hundred dollars in freelance graphic design. For a recent dropout still living at his parents’ house, with friends from the year above earning less in six months, that figure mattered. It told him the system outside the system worked.

A cousin in film pulled him into documentary work next, and Danish makes a small but firm argument for the documentary form as a foundation. “You really need to get into documentary filmmaking,” he tells Muzamil, because it teaches you to see what is around you clearly, to frame without controlling the scene, and above all to wait. He shot for the Indus Hospital, then for The Citizens Foundation, then for Shell on a long-running freelance engagement that lasted about seven years.

Graphic design eventually stopped working for him. The problem, as he frames it, was not the craft but the judgement loop — one design, one client, repeated cycles of feedback from people he did not feel were qualified to give it. He needed a medium with more surface area to express a vision.

Bros Meets the World and the people who watched

Danish met Rameez through a mutual friend around late 2017, after a video Danish had shot at a Distinguished Gentleman’s Ride caught Rameez’s eye. The two clicked instantly. Within a couple of months they had taken a trip together, decided to leave the organisation Rameez was at, and started Bros Meets the World.

Danish is unromantic about what the channel was. The content, he tells Muzamil, was “low-hanging” — a food and lifestyle vlog, easy-going, fun to make, and honest about being that. “There are people who have millions of followers thriving on that content,” he says, and he does not look down on it. But it was never going to be a long-term home for him. The channel ran for about three years before it went dormant.

He refuses to say it ended. “I don’t like to use terms like stop and end or whatever, because it has to be more fluid than that.” He compares it to a coal engine that stopped being fed. Muzamil pushes the metaphor — coal still exists, nobody uses it any more — and Danish lets it land. The friendships, he says repeatedly, are what he holds on to.

The first solo video, and the industry that noticed

The most animated stretch of the conversation is Muzamil’s account of seeing Danish’s first solo video on his own channel. Muzamil says he has only seen two moments in recent Pakistani YouTube where a creator dropped a debut and the entire industry celebrated it. One was Memes Im Moment. The other was Danish.

“I roam around the industry and nobody knows this,” Danish replies, half-laughing. Muzamil presses on the point: in Pakistan, real artistic work is usually under-appreciated until the artist is gone. For senior creators to publicly celebrate a debut on aesthetic alone, the work has to be genuinely disruptive. Danish accepts the read and offers his own diagnosis of why he then failed to sustain it: he was running three things at once. The studio, the freelance corporate work, and the channels. Bros took priority. His solo channel sat as a side project. A video that should have taken a week of focused work was stretched across a month of stolen hours.

The shift he announces in this episode is that, for the first time in his life, he is calling himself a full-time content creator. The plan is one cinematic video a week at the production quality of his debut, supplemented by a Patreon for the people who message him asking how he edits, lights, and frames. Earlier in his life, he says, he could not call himself a director because he did not have enough work under his belt to claim the title. Now he can.

Imitation, originality, and the local lineage

Muzamil and Danish spend a good stretch tracing the lineage of cinematic creators they grew up watching — Peter McKinnon, Casey Neistat, Dan Mace, Ray William Johnson, Mystery Guitar Man — and locally Mooroo, Irfan Junejo, Ukhano. Danish makes a point he says he was not comfortable making when he first started, but is now: every creator is a collage of borrowed pieces, and that is fine.

“If you were to focus on that piece alone — the font, the way it’s placed — oh, that’s this person,” he says. “But if you look at it holistically, the whole piece is unique.” He cites a small book he has finally picked up after years of being told to: Steal Like An Artist. The argument he draws from it is the one he wants to leave with the audience. Imitation is the most honest form of flattery, and pretending you arrived at your style independently is the dishonest move.

Muzamil presses him on Irfan Junejo specifically — why a creator with a heavy bike and a MacBook managed to land in a relatable register that pulled in a Lyari-boys audience. Danish’s answer is that nobody really targets a demographic. They make what they make, they figure things out, and they land somewhere. Irfan’s vulnerability on camera — the stumbles, the moments where confidence dipped — was what people connected to. Danish admits he is only now reaching that comfort. His latest video keeps in the takes where he stumbles, looks the wrong way, or says something the wrong way. Weekly rhythm does not allow the monthly perfectionism of a side project.

The flyover, the bike, and what he refused to do next

Around the fifty-minute mark Muzamil asks Danish to walk through his recent bike accident. It is the third one Danish has had in Karachi. The first was a rickshaw turning into him. The second was an uncle in an old car trying to overtake from the wrong side on a highway. The third happened on a flyover in Clifton. Three men on a 70cc, no helmets, no visors, no licence, decided to cut across his lane with no signal. Danish, on a Harley Davidson cruiser that does not stop quickly, had about four or five seconds to watch the gap close. Jamming the brakes would have put him down. He squeezed them slowly and ran out of road.

He slid, then tucked into a roll — “I just became like a small cylinder,” he says — because that is the safest way to bleed off speed. When he stopped, he walked himself to the footpath, checked the bike was not on fire, and sat down.

Then the part of the story he wants to be heard. A crowd swarmed in. There was anger, gaalum-ghuloz, the usual scene. Danish refused to play it. The men who hit him had no licence, gave no signal, did not look. The framing he insisted on, both in the moment and on camera afterwards, was not class or sympathy. It was rules. “Privileged, non-privileged, mistake, no mistake — that goes out of the window. It’s all about right and wrong, following the rules and not following the rules.” He chose to record the incident and use it as content, because the people he can actually influence are the ones who watch his videos. He is roughly eighty percent recovered as of the recording, still limping, but well enough to have trekked with his mother and brother two days before.

Pakistan in 2050, and the last word

Muzamil closes with his standard final question: what does Danish see when he looks at Pakistan thirty years from now? Danish refuses to bluff. “I can’t see much. It’s a blur.” He will not pretend he has the insight to forecast a country when he can barely forecast his own next hour. What he is willing to wish for is a society that is less aggressive, more inclusive, more accepting, and less defined by Lahori-versus-Karachi tribalism — assuming the climate crisis does not overtake all of it first.

By the end of the conversation, Muzamil tells Danish he is one of the few artists left in Pakistan genuinely interested in identifying problems and trying to solve them. Danish accepts the seat he has been given on the show, thanks the channel, and the episode wraps with Muzamil’s usual sign-off and a quiet acknowledgement that what comes next for this guest is unwritten — exactly the transitionary space he was invited in to talk about.