Thought Behind Things
500+ long-form conversations with the people building the future.
500+ deep-dive interviews across boardrooms, cabinet rooms, factory floors, and lecture halls. Founders raising their first million sit next to CEOs running multi-billion-dollar groups; federal ministers sit next to PhD economists. The longest-running long-form conversation in Pakistan, and the one most operators are listening to.
The most recent episodes.
Five episodes that show the range: a 40-billion-rupee tech founder, the CEO of Unilever Pakistan, an industrialist who built DESCON, a late-night satirist, and Pakistan's loudest critic of Islamic banking.
The rupee is being held. REITs are the exit.
with Muhammad Ejaz
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Tanveer Nandla: SEO is the mother of digital marketing
with M. Tanveer Nandla
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You can outsource intelligence, not understanding
with Hashim Syed
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The entry-level job is gone. Unpaid work is the way in.
with Ghalib Hassam
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By 2032, 93% of Pakistan's budget will vanish into debt
with Qanit Khalilullah
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Hafiz Ahmed: I woke up at zero after a £600k night
with Hafiz Ahmed
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Ahmad Awais: 400 million coders won't afford AI
with Ahmad Awais
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Simon Dixon: the US empire is being wound down by design
with Simon Dixon
Listen →Six years, sorted into subjects.
The full archive is browseable by theme instead of a 427-card dump. Open any subject for every episode in it.
Pakistan's Economy
181Budgets, debt, exports, manufacturing — and the people who actually move the numbers.
See all 181 →Founders & Startups
155How Pakistan's operators are actually building — from first cheque to nine-figure exits.
See all 155 →Politics & Policy
50Cabinet rooms, courts, parties, and the policy decisions that shape 250 million people.
See all 50 →Tech, AI & the Future
71Where Pakistan's tech industry is heading — the engineers, the platforms, and the AI shift.
See all 71 →Foreign Affairs & Geopolitics
42Pakistan's place in a multi-polar world — China, the Gulf, the West, and what comes next.
See all 42 →Money, Investing & Career
58Real estate, stocks, freelancing, and the financial decisions that compound over decades.
See all 58 →Culture, Sport & Creators
136Comedians, athletes, film-makers, podcasters — the storytellers shaping the country's identity.
See all 136 →Never miss a conversation.
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