Salman Javed
director of South Asia Times
Compiled from 3 recorded interviews. Every statement below is drawn from the passage cited beside it.
Salman Javed is the director general of Pak Afghan Youth Forum (PAYF) / South Asia Times. Javed has been described as holding a master's degree in international relations and an MBA. Javed has been described as the director of South Asia Times.
Contents
- Education and career
- Public commentary
- Views on the US withdrawal and the Afghan government
- Views on Afghan opinion and the Taliban today
- Views on the Taliban, the TTP and Al-Qaeda
- Views on Pakistan's policy toward Afghanistan
- Views on India, Russia and China
- Accounts of Pakistan-Afghanistan history
- Views on statecraft and narratives
- Appearances
- Frequently asked questions
- References
Education and career
Javed has been described as holding a master's degree in international relations and an MBA. Javed has been described as the director of South Asia Times. Javed has also been described as a member of the board of directors of the Maritime Study Forum. [3]
Public commentary
Javed has said that anything which is just a Google search away is not a fact. Javed has said the basic rule of social sciences is to go to primary sources. Javed has said he snubbed someone because he cannot talk about another sovereign country as though it were his own state or one of his provinces. [1][2]
Views on the US withdrawal and the Afghan government
Javed has said the US withdrawal from Afghanistan was faster than anyone expected. Javed has said the Taliban had calculated that US forces would withdraw quickly. Javed has said the US may leave Afghanistan by 11 September, and that Afghanistan is heading towards another civil war. [1][2]
Javed has said the Taliban have captured the trade routes. Javed has said the Taliban advance reflects the weakness of the Afghan government more than Taliban strength. Javed has said the 85 percent figure is not right and that urban areas remain with the Kabul government. [1]
Javed has said the Afghan National Army lacks battle-hardening, dedication, passion and ideology. Javed has said 20 years is not a long enough time to build an army. Javed has said Afghanistan has no security apparatus of this kind, and that a country can only be as strong in defence as its security apparatus. [1]
Views on Afghan opinion and the Taliban today
Javed has said many Afghans, especially in the north and south, are apprehensive of a Taliban regime. Javed has said the Taliban's rule in the 1990s is why many Afghans are fearful. Javed has said some Afghans he expected to be anti-Taliban, from the north, are changing their position. [1]
Javed has said the Taliban issued a policy to commanders to avoid harming Afghan assets unless it is necessary. Javed has said the Taliban negotiate with local elders and tell them they do not want the governor. Javed has said Afghans are not ungrateful and that stereotyping should end from both sides. [1][2]
Views on the Taliban, the TTP and Al-Qaeda
Javed has said the Taliban did not exist as a group in the 1980s or early 1990s. Salman says the Taliban emerged after 1990 and that some of them were Afghans who had studied in Pakistani madrassas. Salman says the early Taliban was a very decentralized organization. Salman says the Taliban's ideology was to bring order to Afghanistan's chaos, and that it imposed its orthodox ideology wherever it ended chaos. [2][3]
Javed has said no non-Pashtun has ever led the Taliban. Javed has said the Taliban manifesto states that no non-Pashtun can lead the movement. [2]
Javed has said the Taliban and the TTP are two different entities. Javed has said the Taliban told the TTP to merge with them and stop using Afghan soil against other countries. Javed has said the Taliban have had clashes with the TTP. Salman argues the TTP took its ideology from Al-Qaeda. [1][3]
Javed has said he and others draw a parallel between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Salman says Al-Qaeda's origins lie in the 1980s Afghan war and that its original name was the International Islamic Front. Salman says Al-Qaeda moved to Afghanistan after Sudan. Salman says Ayman al-Zawahiri was the main strategist behind Al-Qaeda's overall structure, and that Al-Qaeda became the core factor behind the war on terror. [2][3]
Views on Pakistan's policy toward Afghanistan
Javed has said Pakistan is more concerned that peace comes to Afghanistan. Javed has said Pakistan's first aim in Afghanistan is peace, and that its second concern is that its neighborhood does not become hostile. Javed has said Pakistan's concern with any Afghan government is that neither country's soil is used against the other. Javed has said Pakistan does not want to exert influence in Afghanistan. [1]
Javed has said Pakistan cannot control the Taliban and can only maneuver through its relationship with them, and that good relations with the Taliban and control over them are two different things. Javed has said Pakistan sent three delegations to Mullah Omar, and they refused. Javed has said Pakistan will only support a federating or republican unit that unites the people. Javed has said Pakistan can only act as a facilitator in Afghanistan, and that solving Afghanistan's problems is the responsibility of the Afghan people. [1]
Javed has said there is no concept of strategic depth on the Pakistani side, and calls the idea a myth. Javed has said the claim that Pakistan destabilised Afghanistan for 40 years through proxies is a myth. Javed has said the ISI is not a proxy but "our legitimate intelligence agency." Javed has said Pakistan approached the Taliban for help when its men were trapped. [1][2]
Javed has said Pakistan has always wanted economic cooperation in the region, and that the geo-economics approach is not new and is not the Bajwa doctrine. Javed has said Pakistan wants an economic corridor towards Central Asia. Javed has said the largest populations in Asia are in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh. Javed has said a stable region could move from being a consumer market to a production market, and that the region should join the Asian century rather than the Quad. [1]
Javed has said Pakistan is already hosting 3 million Afghan refugees. Javed has said Pakistan issued 3,000 student visas and fully funded scholarships to Afghans. Javed has said Pakistan cannot close all its gates and will have to support a controlled influx of refugees. Javed has said about 30,000 to 40,000 people cross from Afghanistan into Pakistan each day. [1][2]
Javed has quoted Imran Khan as saying "we will be partner in peace but not in war." Javed has said Imran Khan's only prominent foreign trip apart from the UN was to Kabul. Javed has said peace in Islamabad and peace in Kabul depend on each other. [1][2]
Views on India, Russia and China
Javed has said India has a bad habit of jumping into a sinking ship at the climax. Javed has said India tried to reach the Taliban through Madrassa Deoband. Javed has said India's Deoband outreach to the Taliban in 2008-10 did not succeed. [1]
Javed has said Russia has completely changed its position in recent times. Javed has said China has a lot of interest in Afghanistan, which is right on its border. Javed has said Afghanistan has rare earth minerals that matter to Chinese products. [1]
Accounts of Pakistan-Afghanistan history
Salman says Afghanistan was a constitutional monarchy under King Zahir Shah at the time of Pakistan's founding. Salman says King Zahir Shah was involved in the Pashtunistan campaign, but the prime minister held the power. Salman says Afghanistan was the only country that did not accept Pakistan at first, and that it accepted it two months later. Salman says an Afghan assassinated Liaquat Ali Khan. [3]
Salman says Pakistan's consulates in Kandahar and Kabul were attacked and burned in 1955. Salman says Afghanistan and Pakistan signed the Tehran Accord in 1963, with Iran mediating. Salman says Afghanistan said it would stay out of the 1965 war and support Pakistan if needed, and that Afghanistan stayed out of the 1971 war. [3]
Salman says Zahir Shah was removed as king in a coup. Salman says three men came to Pakistan in 1974, and one of them was Ahmed Shah Masood. Salman says this was Pakistan's first hard-power reaction since 1947. [3]
Salman says three Afghan presidents were assassinated within about 20 months, from 1978 to 1979. Salman says KGB commandos raided the palace in Afghanistan and took over the country. Salman says refugees began arriving in Pakistan because of the killings that came before the Soviet invasion. Salman says the Afghan socialist experiment created a spillover threat that led Pakistan to respond. [3]
Javed has said the Soviets kept supplying Najib's government after they withdrew, and that Najib was a nationalist. Javed has said NATO and ISAF forces are now in the position Soviet forces held in the 1980s. Javed has said Ahmad Shah Masood was seen as the one man standing between Kabul and the Taliban, and that Masood was killed two days before 9/11. [2]
Salman argues the Afghan war was Pakistan's war, not Charlie Wilson's war. Salman says Saudi Arabia matched US funding for the Afghan resistance, and that direct US ground support for the Afghan war began after 1984. Salman says the ISI organised the Afghan operation so that the CIA had no direct role. [3]
Salman says Zia, who was president while Junejo was prime minister, refused to sign two items at a Geneva convention. Salman says the Americans gave the Russians safe passage so that they could leave. Salman says Zia and the spy chief who was with him were assassinated in that air crash. [3]
Views on statecraft and narratives
Salman says Pakistan is often labelled a rogue state, a terrorist hub or a failed state. Salman says a state's interests can be ideological, geopolitical or geoeconomic. Salman argues that in statecraft, interests matter more than ideologies. [3]
Salman argues that blaming Zia or one military establishment alone is a fallacy. Salman says Pakistanis are not taught how Afghan actions from 1947 to 1979 led to Pakistan's reactions. Salman argues the liberal left, not the religious right, started the violence in Pakistan, and that the religious right and the liberal left are equally involved in violence. Salman also says Musharraf agreed immediately after a phone call. [3]
Appearances
| Date | Title | Where |
|---|---|---|
| 2021-07-16 | What's really at stake as the Taliban take Afghanistan | Thought Behind Things |
| 2021-04-23 | Afghanistan's cycle of conflict: history, power vacuums, and Pakistan's strategic dilemma | Thought Behind Things |
| 2021-04-14 | How Pakistan and Afghanistan became locked in cycles of intervention | Thought Behind Things |
Frequently asked questions
Where did Salman Javed study?
Salman Javed has been described as holding a master's degree in international relations and an MBA. Javed is also described as the director of South Asia Times.[3]
What organisations is Salman Javed associated with?
Salman Javed is described as the director of South Asia Times. Javed is also described as a member of the board of directors of the Maritime Study Forum.[3]
What has Salman Javed said about the US withdrawal from Afghanistan?
Salman Javed has said the US withdrawal from Afghanistan was faster than anyone expected. Javed has said the Taliban had calculated that US forces would withdraw quickly. Javed has also said the Taliban advance reflects the weakness of the Afghan government more than Taliban strength.[1]
What is Salman Javed's view on Pakistan's role in Afghanistan?
Salman Javed has said Pakistan's first aim in Afghanistan is peace. Javed has said Pakistan cannot control the Taliban and can only maneuver through its relationship with them. Javed has also said Pakistan can only act as a facilitator in Afghanistan.[1]
References
- What's really at stake as the Taliban take Afghanistan . Thought Behind Things , 2021-07-16.
- Afghanistan's cycle of conflict: history, power vacuums, and Pakistan's strategic dilemma . Thought Behind Things , 2021-04-23.
- How Pakistan and Afghanistan became locked in cycles of intervention . Thought Behind Things , 2021-04-14.
Show the source passages (114 statements)
- Javed has said the US withdrawal from Afghanistan was faster than anyone expected.
US ne aur Biden ne elaan kiya ke they are pulling out aur phir unhone jis tezi se pull out kiya, un-precedent qisam ka, woh expectations mein kisi ke bhi nahi tha.
- Javed has said the Taliban had calculated that US forces would withdraw quickly.
Lekin somehow it seems ke Taliban ne yeh calculation karke rakhi hui thi ke Americans jo hain woh idhar se jald se jald pull out karenge.
- Javed has said the Taliban have captured the trade routes.
Toh unhone jitne trade routes the, woh unhone capture kiye hain.
- Javed has said the Taliban advance reflects the weakness of the Afghan government more than Taliban strength.
So it's less to do with the strength of Taliban and more to do with the weakness of the Afghan government.
- Javed has said the 85 percent figure is not right and that urban areas remain with the Kabul government.
85% to khair nahi hai. Urban areas are still with the Kabul government.
- Javed has said the Afghan National Army lacks battle-hardening, dedication, passion and ideology.
Battle hardened, phir unki generations hain, phir ek dedication hai, phir ek passion hai, phir ideology hai. Toh woh saari cheezein add up hoti jaati hain. These all things lack in the Afghan National Army.
- Javed has said 20 years is not a long enough time to build an army.
20 saal kisi bhi fauj ko banne ke liye koi bahut zyada bada arsa nahi hai.
- Javed has said Afghanistan has no security apparatus of this kind.
Lekin unfortunately kyunke Afghanistan ka koi security apparatus is tarah ka maujood nahi hai
- Javed has said a country can only be as strong in defence as its security apparatus.
hamare security apparatus jitne strong honge, utna hum apne aap ko mazboot rakh sakenge from the defense point of view.
- Javed has said many Afghans, especially in the north and south, are apprehensive of a Taliban regime.
bahut se aise log specially on the north side aur even on the south side, woh Taliban ki jo bhi regime agar aati hai toh usse thode se apprehensive zaroor hain.
- Javed has said the Taliban's rule in the 1990s is why many Afghans are fearful.
woh is wajah se kyunke jo 1990s ke andar Taliban ne jis tareeqe se rule kiya hai, woh ek aisa element zaroor hai jiski wajah se log jo hain woh thode se dare hue hain.
- Javed has said some Afghans he expected to be anti-Taliban, from the north, are changing their position.
Lekin bahut se aise log jo ke jinko main samajhta tha ke anti-Taliban honge and they are from the north side, they are changing their position right now.
- Javed has said the Taliban issued a policy to commanders to avoid harming Afghan assets unless it is necessary.
Afghan Taliban ne is baar ek policy statement jaari kiya hai apne tamam commanders ke liye aur usme unhone yahi kaha hai ke kahin pe bhi Afghan jo assets hain, jisme infrastructure bhi hai, jisme human assets bhi hain, unka zyada nuqsaan nahi karna until and unless it is necessary.
- Javed has said Pakistan is more concerned that peace comes to Afghanistan.
Isliye Pakistan is more concerned ke Afghanistan ke andar peace aa jaye.
- Javed has said Pakistan's first aim in Afghanistan is peace.
Pakistan ke sirf woh toh do maqasid hain aur number one one of them is peace.
- Javed has said Pakistan's second concern is that its neighborhood does not become hostile.
Number two Pakistan ka jo udhar concern hai woh yeh ke hostile environment na ho.
- Javed has said Pakistan cannot control the Taliban and can only maneuver through its relationship with them.
Aap you can't control them at this point in time. You can only maneuver based on your relationship that you have with them.
- Javed has said good relations with the Taliban and control over them are two different things.
Toh yeh ek alag cheez hai ke Pakistan ke unke saath ache talluqat hona aur control hona. These are two different things.
- Javed has said Pakistan sent three delegations to Mullah Omar, and they refused.
Usmein us waqt bhi Pakistan ne teen delegation bheje the Mullah Omar ke paas. Right. And they refused.
- Javed has said Pakistan will only support a federating or republican unit that unites the people.
Pakistan will only support a federating unit jo ke basically logon ko ikatha ya republican unit jo ke logon ko ikatha leke chal raha ho.
- Javed has said solving Afghanistan's problems is the responsibility of the Afghan people.
problem ko solve karna it is a responsibility of Afghan Afghan people.
- Javed has said Pakistan can only act as a facilitator in Afghanistan.
Pakistan jo hai woh sirf aur sirf ek talluqat jo hai na facilitator ka kaam kar sakta hai aur karega.
- Javed has said Pakistan's concern with any Afghan government is that neither country's soil is used against the other.
Pakistan ka ek hi concern hai ke aapki soil hamare khilaf istemaal nahi hogi aur hamari soil aapke khilaf istemaal nahi hogi.
- Javed has said Pakistan does not want to exert influence in Afghanistan.
Pakistan yeh nahi chahta ke wahan pe apna influence exert kare.
- Javed has said there is no concept of strategic depth on the Pakistani side, and calls the idea a myth.
there is no concept of strategic depth at Pakistan side. It's a myth.
- Javed has said he snubbed someone because he cannot talk about another sovereign country as though it were his own state or one of his provinces.
I snubbed him because I had to because I cannot talk about another sovereign country in terms of in a way ke jaise woh meri state hai ya mera koi province hai.
- Javed has said Pakistan has always wanted economic cooperation in the region.
Toh Pakistan toh hamesha se economic cooperation chahta hai.
- Javed has said the geo-economics approach is not new and is not the Bajwa doctrine.
It's not new, it's not Bajwa doctrine. It was always there.
- Javed has said Pakistan wants an economic corridor towards Central Asia.
Kyunki Pakistan ka jo economic corridor hai jo ke Pakistan leke jana chahta hai towards Central Asia
- Javed has said India has a bad habit of jumping into a sinking ship at the climax.
But they they they do have a very bad habit of jumping into a sinking ship right at the climax.
- Javed has said India tried to reach the Taliban through Madrassa Deoband.
India also tried to reach out Taliban through Madrassa Deoband
- Javed has said India's Deoband outreach to the Taliban in 2008-10 did not succeed.
Lekin woh woh kamyab nahi hui 2008-10 ke andar unhone yeh kiya tha.
- Javed has said the Taliban and the TTP are two different entities.
And safely now we can say ke these are two different entities.
- Javed has said the Taliban told the TTP to merge with them and stop using Afghan soil against other countries.
Abhi Taliban ne baqaida wahan pe koi verdict issue kiya hai jis ke andar unhone TTP ko yeh kaha hai ke aap hamare saath merge ho jayein aur ab aap is soil ko use nahi karenge for against any other country.
- Javed has said the Taliban have had clashes with the TTP.
To us pe unki koi TTP ke saath ladaiyan shidaiyan bhi hui hain.
- Javed has said the Taliban negotiate with local elders and tell them they do not want the governor.
usse negotiate karte hain aur usko kehte hain ke we we do not want our governor over here.
- Javed has said Pakistan is already hosting 3 million Afghan refugees.
Achha refugees ka jahan tak hai ke Pakistan is already hold uh hosting 3 million refugees.
- Javed has said Pakistan issued 3,000 student visas and fully funded scholarships to Afghans.
3000 Pakistan ne student visas diye hain, theek hai, scholarships di hain, sorry scholarships di hain, fully funded.
- Javed has quoted Imran Khan as saying "we will be partner in peace but not in war."
That's why that statement from Imran Khan ke we will be partner in peace but not in war.
- Javed has said Pakistan cannot close all its gates and will have to support a controlled influx of refugees.
Pakistan baharhal apne gates saare ke saare band nahi kar sakta. Usko ek controlled influx of refugees ko uh uh support karna bhi padega
- Javed has said Russia has completely changed its position in recent times.
I think that's another episode altogether because Russia is completely switched recent times ke andar.
- Javed has said China has a lot of interest in Afghanistan, which is right on its border.
China has a lot of interest in Afghanistan as well. It's right there in the border.
- Javed has said Afghanistan has rare earth minerals that matter to Chinese products.
Rare earth minerals wahan pe bahut zyada hain jo ke bade important ek sort of uh raw material hai for a lot of you know Chinese products.
- Javed has said the largest populations in Asia are in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.
Ab sabse abadi abadi sirf in char mumalik mein hi aap dekh lein. Right. Afghanistan, Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.
- Javed has said a stable region could move from being a consumer market to a production market.
agar is region ke andar yeh stable ho jate hain from they will transform themselves from consumer to production market.
- Javed has said the region should join the Asian century rather than the Quad.
Toh bajaye iske ke woh quad ka hissa bane, usko zaroorat hai ke woh is Asian century ka hissa bane.
- Javed has said he has spoken in space sessions with Afghan participants.
Phir ek aur space session mein meri baat hui to udhar bhi woh Afghans hain
- Javed has said the ISI is not a proxy but "our legitimate intelligence agency."
To maine kaha ISI is not a proxy. It's it's it's it's our legitimate intelligence agency.
- Javed has said the claim that Pakistan destabilised Afghanistan for 40 years through proxies is a myth.
Yeh bahut badi ek myth hai ke Pakistan aur yeh Afghanistan ke andar unfortunately zyada padhai jaati hai aur likhai jaati hai ke Pakistan ne 40 saal bahut zyada wahan pe destabilize kiya hai aur proxies ko nurture kiya hai.
- Javed has said he took part in a Twitter Space session on the Afghanistan peace process.
we were having a Twitter space session on Afghanistan peace process.
- Javed has said that anything which is just a Google search away is not a fact.
anything which is just a Google away is not a fact.
- Javed has said the basic rule of social sciences is to go to primary sources.
ye social sciences ka ek bunyadi thumb rule hai ke you have to go to the primary source.
- Javed has said no non-Pashtun has ever led the Taliban.
Taliban ka koi bhi aaj tak ameer jo hai it never never ever koi non-Pashtun nahi bana.
- Javed has said the Taliban manifesto states that no non-Pashtun can lead the movement.
apne manifesto mein ye cheez likhi hui hai ke koi bhi non-Pashtun Taliban ka leader nahi ban sakta.
- Javed has said NATO and ISAF forces are now in the position Soviet forces held in the 1980s.
NATO aur ISAF forces bhi usi tareeke se maujood hain jis tarah kisi zamane mein Soviets yahan pe maujood the.
- Javed has said Najib was a nationalist.
Achcha Najib was a nationalist as well.
- Javed has said the Soviets kept supplying Najib's government after they withdrew.
Soviets withdraw kar gaye the lekin woh jo Najib ki government thi usko woh support kar rahe the economically aur militarily.
- Javed has said the Taliban did not exist as a group in the 1980s or early 1990s.
But as a group there was no Taliban back in 80s or even early 90s.
- Javed has said he and others draw a parallel between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda.
What we do is ke hum Taliban ka parallel draw karte hain Al-Qaeda ke saath.
- Javed has said Afghanistan is heading towards another civil war.
indicator hai ke Afghanistan is heading towards again heading towards another civil war.
- Javed has said the US may leave Afghanistan by 11 September.
woh yeh nazar aata hai ki September 11th ko the Americans leave.
- Javed has said Afghans are not ungrateful.
Afghani namak haram nahi hai.
- Javed has said stereotyping should end from both sides.
stereotyping khatam karni chahiye dono sides se
- Javed has said he met the Afghan ambassador about a month earlier.
And I met the Afghan ambassador as well a month ago
- Javed has said Ahmad Shah Masood was seen as the one man standing between Kabul and the Taliban.
the only thing between Kabul and Taliban, if there is one man standing that is Ahmad Shah Masood.
- Javed has said Masood was killed two days before 9/11.
Aur Masood ki shahadat ke do din baad 9/11 hua tha.
- Javed has said about 30,000 to 40,000 people cross from Afghanistan into Pakistan each day.
Safely, safely ek din mein Afghanistan se Pakistan taqreeban 30 se 40 hazaar log aate hain.
- Javed has said peace in Islamabad and peace in Kabul depend on each other.
Peace in Islamabad means peace in Kabul and peace in Kabul means peace in Islamabad.
- Javed has said Imran Khan's only prominent foreign trip apart from the UN was to Kabul.
The only prominent foreign tour UN ke ilawa jo Imran Khan ka hai woh Kabul ka hai.
- Javed has said Pakistan approached the Taliban for help when its men were trapped.
Pakistan jo hai woh Taliban ke paas gaya tha ke yaar hamari madad kar do hamare bande phas gaye hain.
- The host introduced Salman as the director of South Asia Times.
he is also the director of South Asia Times
- The host introduced Salman as a member of the board of directors of the Maritime Study Forum.
he is the member board of directors at the Maritime Study Forum
- The host said Salman holds a master's degree in IR and an MBA.
he is a masters in IR, he is also an MBA
- Salman says he is on Twitter.
Yeah, I am on Twitter. It's M_E_S_J_A_Y.
- Salman says Pakistan is often labelled a rogue state, a terrorist hub or a failed state.
Pakistan ko as a rogue state kaha jata hai, Pakistan ko kaha jata hai ke terrorist hub hai, failed state hai
- Salman says a state's interests can be ideological, geopolitical or geoeconomic.
woh ideology driven bhi ho sakta hai, woh interest geopolitical angle se bhi ho sakta hai, woh interest geoeconomical angle se bhi ho sakta hai.
- Salman says Afghanistan was the only country that did not accept Pakistan at first, and that it accepted it two months later.
Afghanistan was the only country jisne Pakistan ko accept nahi kiya tha. But yeh bahut kam bataya jata hai ke do mahine baad unhone accept bhi kar liya tha.
- Salman says Afghanistan was a constitutional monarchy under King Zahir Shah at the time of Pakistan's founding.
us waqt Zahir Shah was the king, it was a constitutional monarchy.
- Salman says King Zahir Shah was involved in the Pashtunistan campaign, but the prime minister held the power.
Obviously Zahir Shah being the king was involved in it, but unka itna zyada shayad kirdar isliye na kyunke power resided with the prime minister.
- Salman says an Afghan assassinated Liaquat Ali Khan.
woh bhi ek Afghan jo tha, Syed Muhammad I think uska naam tha, toh he was the guy who assassinated Liaquat Ali Khan.
- Salman says Pakistan's consulates in Kandahar and Kabul were attacked and burned in 1955.
1955 mein Kandahar aur Kabul ke andar jo hamare consulate the unko baqaida attack karke jalaya gaya
- Salman says Afghanistan and Pakistan signed the Tehran Accord in 1963, with Iran mediating.
1963 mein Tehran Accord, Tehran Accords ko humne phir sign kiya Afghanistan aur Pakistan ne Iran ke andar jaake. Iran ne usko mediate kiya tha.
- Salman says Afghanistan said it would stay out of the 1965 war and support Pakistan if needed.
1965 ki war hui thi toh Afghanistan ne us waqt yeh kaha tha ke we will stay out of this war instead we will support you if you will be needing that kind of support.
- Salman says Afghanistan stayed out of the 1971 war.
1971 ki war ke andar bhi Afghanistan stayed out.
- Salman says Zahir Shah was removed as king in a coup.
Daud Khan came back and he usne ek coup ke zariye Zahir Shah ko hata diya king ko.
- Salman says three men came to Pakistan in 1974, and one of them was Ahmed Shah Masood.
1974 ke andar for the first time teen bande Pakistan aaye aur un teen mein se ek Ahmed Shah Masood the
- Salman says this was Pakistan's first hard-power reaction since 1947.
So this was the first reaction of Pakistan since 47 in terms of hard power.
- Salman says three Afghan presidents were assassinated within about 20 months, from 1978 to 1979.
1978 se 1979 ke 20 mahino ke andar teen presidents jo hain wo Afghanistan ke unko assassinate kiya gaya.
- Salman says KGB commandos raided the palace in Afghanistan and took over the country.
KGB ke jo commandos the, they raided the palace, Afghanistan palace, they killed Aminullah and then they took over Afghanistan.
- Salman says refugees began arriving in Pakistan because of the killings that came before the Soviet invasion.
itna qatl-o-gharat hua ki uski wajah se phir refugees Pakistan aana shuru huye. That was the point. Not the not the invasion of Russians.
- Salman says the Afghan socialist experiment created a spillover threat that led Pakistan to respond.
We had that spillover effect on us aur uski wajah se phir hamare andar yeh thinking generate hui ki to safeguard ourselves and our ideological foundations and our people as well, we need to respond.
- Salman argues the Afghan war was Pakistan's war, not Charlie Wilson's war.
But it was not Charlie Wilson's war. It was Pakistan's war. It was Pakistan's army's war, it was Pakistan's ISI's war.
- Salman says Saudi Arabia matched US funding for the Afghan resistance.
Americans ne sirf paise diye the thode se lekin Saudi Arab ne utne hi paise diye the jitne Americans ne diye the.
- Salman says direct US ground support for the Afghan war began after 1984.
Americans practically came on ground ya jo unki on ground support asli ki surat mein wo 1984 ke baad aana shuru hui hai.
- Salman says the ISI organised the Afghan operation so that the CIA had no direct role.
Obviously Pakistan ki ISI ne us zamane mein is tarike se isko orchestrate kiya tha ki CIA ki direct ingress nahi thi.
- Salman says Zia, who was president while Junejo was prime minister, refused to sign two items at a Geneva convention.
Junejo uh was the Prime Minister at that time, civil side se and Zia was the president. To Zia ne us waqt ek Geneva convention hua tha aur uske andar sign karna tha do cheezon ko. Uspe Zia ne usko mana kiya tha.
- Salman says the Americans gave the Russians safe passage so that they could leave.
it was a safe passage given by the Americans to the Russians taake wo nikal sakein
- Salman says Zia and the spy chief who was with him were assassinated in that air crash.
Zia aur uske saath Akhtar Abdur Rehman, the spy chief, he was also assassinated in that air crash.
- Salman says the Taliban emerged after 1990 and that some of them were Afghans who had studied in Pakistani madrassas.
Taliban to hain wo post-90 baad mein emerge huye hain aur wo to idhar ke Pakistan ke madraso ke pade huye kuch afghan the
- Salman says Al-Qaeda's origins lie in the 1980s Afghan war.
Al-Qaeda ka genesis isme koi shak nahi hai ke us 80s ki war mein hi hai.
- Salman says the Taliban's ideology was to bring order to Afghanistan's chaos.
Taliban ki ideology was not chaos. It was to bring order to the chaotic elements of Afghanistan.
- Salman says the Taliban imposed its orthodox ideology wherever it ended chaos.
jab unka wo order lekar aate the to jahan wo chaos ko khatam karte the, wahan apni wo orthodox mentality ya ideology ko bhi wahan pe impose kar dete the
- Salman says the early Taliban was a very decentralized organization.
Taliban jab shuru mein to it was a very decentralized organization.
- Salman argues that in statecraft, interests matter more than ideologies.
State craft ke andar ideologies matter nahi karti, state craft ke andar aapke interests matter karte hain.
- Salman argues that blaming Zia or one military establishment alone is a fallacy.
khali Zia ko blame karna aur khali kisi ek military establishment ke upar baat ko rakh dena it is actually a fallacy of the narratives.
- Salman says Pakistanis are not taught how Afghan actions from 1947 to 1979 led to Pakistan's reactions.
Unfortunately, humein yeh nahi padhaya jaata ke Afghanistan ki taraf se jo historical 47 se 79 tak jo mamlaat rahe, uski wajah se Pakistan ko kya reaction dena pada
- Salman argues the liberal left, not the religious right, started the violence in Pakistan.
Pakistan mein violence it was not started by the religious right. The violence, the proxy violence was started by the liberal left.
- Salman argues the religious right and the liberal left are equally involved in violence.
To wo chahe religious right ki ho chahe wo liberal left ki ho, they are all equally involved.
- Salman says Ayman al-Zawahiri was the main strategist behind Al-Qaeda's overall structure.
Ayman al-Zawahiri ka aisa koi background nahi tha. So he could not become the poster boy. But he was the main strategist behind Al-Qaeda's you know overall structure.
- Salman argues the TTP took its ideology from Al-Qaeda.
TTP took its ideology from Al-Qaeda. Not from Afghan Taliban, not from Osama bin Laden, not from any other element, but from Al-Qaeda.
- Salman says Al-Qaeda's original name was the International Islamic Front.
Al-Qaeda ka asal naam jo tha, woh tha International Islamic Front.
- Salman says Al-Qaeda moved to Afghanistan after Sudan.
Sudan ke baad phir woh unko jo doosri jagah mili jahan se woh log apne operations ko carry out kar sakte, that was Afghanistan.
- Salman says Al-Qaeda became the core factor behind the war on terror.
Al-Qaeda became the you know the core factor jiski wajah se phir yeh saari war on terror jo aaj tak hum ladte aa rahe hain
- Salman says Musharraf agreed immediately after a phone call.
hum ek phone call ke upar dhaye gaye aur Musharraf ne foran haan kar di