Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan

Kulsum International Hospital CEO

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Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan is the CEO of Kulsum International Hospital. He was born in Lahore on 7 July 1958, joined Army Medical College in Rawalpindi, and served in the Army for about 24 years. He says the hospital started with 40 beds and now has 100, and that a 500-bed hospital is being built.

Early life and background

Khan was born in Lahore on 7 July 1958. He says his school was a good one, located next to Government College. He describes it as a big building from the British period, about 100 years old. He says schooling in his time combined education with grooming. He also says his generation first saw light arrive in his village. [1]

Education

Khan spent two years at Government College. He says an opportunity came at Army Medical College, and that his marks were not high enough for King Edward. He joined Army Medical College in Rawalpindi, in its first batch, and qualified as an MBBS doctor, a Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery. He also completed a master's in hospital management. He says it was done in an Army setup, linked to Quaid-e-Azam University. [1]

Career

Khan joined the Army after medical training and served for about 24 years. He says he was mainly in management, and a clinician only early in his career. He left the Army after a medical board, following 24 years of service. [1]

After leaving the Army, he became Director Medical Services at Rehman Medical Institute in Peshawar. He also worked at AFIC in Rawalpindi, where he was administrative officer. He found the weekly travel between Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Peshawar tiring while his children were growing. He then returned to Rawalpindi. [1]

Kulsum International Hospital

Khan came to know Dr. Iqbal, who said he wanted to build a hospital. Dr. Iqbal asked him to join and to make a presentation. Khan says he joined in 2010 or 2011. He is the CEO of Kulsum International Hospital, and says he was allowed to fully implement his plans at the hospital, and that everything there has passed through his hands. He says the hospital is named after the mother of Dr. Iqbal. [1]

According to Khan, the hospital started with 40 beds and now has 100, with no spare beds and no room to add more. He says the building was not purpose-built. He says it has CT scan, MRI, radiology, ultrasound and X-ray services. It does cardiac surgery and valve replacements, and offers angioplasty, laparoscopic surgery, knee and hip replacements, and ENT surgery. He says it does emergency angioplasty, with a door-to-balloon time of about 40 minutes, and that 400 to 500 people or more come into contact with the hospital every day. [1]

Kulsum Medical City

Khan says a 500-bed hospital is being built. He places the site on Kashmir Highway, towards the airport, where towers have already been built. He says the land has been secured, the legal matters are being settled, and groundbreaking is expected in December or January. He says the new project will have 200 to 250 beds and diagnostics. [1]

He says the medical city will include medical, dental, pharmacy and physiotherapy colleges, along with allied sciences, nursing and a university. He says Kulsum Medical City is planned as a training institute. He says they are not getting quality nurses, so they will have their own nursing college. He says the goal behind training is good doctors, nurses and technicians, with patient safety as the purpose. [1]

Views

Khan believes the cost of healthcare services is currently low. He says Pakistan runs 70% on SMEs, which do not buy insurance, and that most insurance cover is held by employees, with individuals rarely buying it. He estimates a hospital costs at least 25 billion, with land separate, and says the payback time for a hospital is no less than 7 to 8 years. He says one incentive in the work is the welfare of people: they pay, but they are relieved. He says the machines, companies, pharmaceutical companies and disposable companies across the healthcare industry all have interests. He also says that once all these things are documented, consumption of medicine will come under control. [1]

On staffing, Khan says doctors will not return just for patriotic reasons, because the world runs on incentives. He expects some staff shortfall, but says good pay may limit it. He says his hospital pays doctors on intensive care night duties more than 100k, and that new doctors are put on probation and supervised until they work independently. [1]

Khan notes that 50 to 60 percent of Pakistan's population is under 30. He expects private enterprise to rise rapidly across industries, including healthcare, and expects demand for maternity and child care to grow sharply in the next five to ten years. He says cancer is spreading widely in Pakistan, in many forms and body parts. He accepts that Pakistan is late in technology compared with other countries, and expects the progress of the last 20 years to happen again in the next 10. He says the current difficulties are temporary, and expects things to settle into a stable environment. He believes stability will come once a normal political process and a bona fide government begin, and says he is very positive about Pakistan's future. He also says Pakistan as a nation lacks patience. [1]

On artificial intelligence, Khan says it will revolutionise the whole system. He says doctors will not become obsolete, and will still be needed, though one doctor may now see far more patients. He says the world has far too many patients and far too few doctors. He uses an analogy: a car can be autonomous, but the driver will stay human. He names design thinkers, creative thinkers, critical thinkers and agile leadership. He says medical advancement needs studies and cannot happen without them, that new technology will come to Pakistan and the country will have to upgrade, and that some people still want to see a doctor face to face rather than online. [1]

Timeline

1958
Born in Lahore on 7 July.[1]
2010 or 2011
Khan says he joined.[1]

Appearances

DateTitleWhere
2023-10-13 Why Pakistan's healthcare crisis is really a pricing problem Thought Behind Things

Frequently asked questions

Who is Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan?

Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan is the CEO of Kulsum International Hospital. He was born in Lahore on 7 July 1958. He served in the Army for about 24 years.[1]

What does Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan do?

Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan is the CEO of Kulsum International Hospital. He says he was allowed to fully implement his plans at the hospital, and that everything there has passed through his hands.[1]

Where did Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan study?

Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan spent two years at Government College. He joined Army Medical College in Rawalpindi and qualified as an MBBS doctor. He also completed a master's in hospital management, which he says was done in an Army setup linked to Quaid-e-Azam University.[1]

Where is Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan from?

Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan was born in Lahore on 7 July 1958. He later joined Army Medical College in Rawalpindi.[1]

How long did Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan serve in the Army?

Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan served in the Army for about 24 years. He says he was mainly in management, and a clinician only early in his career. He left the Army after a medical board.[1]

How many beds does Kulsum International Hospital have?

Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan says Kulsum International Hospital started with 40 beds and now has 100. He says it has no spare beds and cannot add more. He also says a 500-bed hospital is being built.[1]

What is Kulsum Medical City?

Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan says Kulsum Medical City is planned as a training institute. He says the medical city will include medical, dental, pharmacy and physiotherapy colleges, along with allied sciences, nursing and a university.[1]

What does Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan think about AI in medicine?

Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan says artificial intelligence will revolutionise the whole system. He says doctors will not become obsolete, though one doctor may now see far more patients. He uses an analogy: a car can be autonomous, but the driver will stay human.[1]

References

  1. Why Pakistan's healthcare crisis is really a pricing problem . Thought Behind Things , 2023-10-13.
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  1. He was born in Lahore. Uh main Lahore mein paida hua.
  2. He was born on 7 July 1958. Uh 1958, 7th July, 7/7/1958.
  3. He says his school was a good one, located next to Government College. School bahut achha tha. Achha. Ek uh unki location Government College ke saath hi hai.
  4. He describes his school as a big building from the British period, about 100 years old. Ji nahi, it was a good school, a big building. Right. British time ka, 100 years old.
  5. He says schooling in his time combined education with grooming. Apart from education, there used to be grooming also. Taleem aur tarbiyat, yeh dono saath chalti thi us time mein.
  6. He spent two years at Government College. Government College mein do saal and then Ji, do saal Government College mein.
  7. He says an opportunity came at Army Medical College, and that his marks were not high enough for King Edward. Ek opportunity aayi Army Medical College ki aur mere marks itne nahi the ke main King Edward mein ja sakta.
  8. He joined Army Medical College in Rawalpindi. And after that I joined Army Medical College, Rawalpindi.
  9. He was in the first batch of Army Medical College. I am the first batch. Achha, interesting. And this is in Rawalpindi, right?
  10. He qualified as an MBBS doctor, a Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery. Uh we can we become MBBS doctors. Okay. Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery.
  11. He joined the Army after medical training. Uske baad tha ke we were in the Army. Humne join kar li service
  12. He served in the Army for about 24 years. About 24 years. 24 You were in the Army for 24 years? Yes.
  13. He says he was mainly in management, and a clinician only early in his career. I was in the management. I told you I never been a clinician. Oh, interesting. Yes. Except in my early life where you have to be a clinician.
  14. He left the Army after a medical board, following 24 years of service. Phir mera medical board out ho gaya 24 years of service pe.
  15. After leaving the Army, he became Director Medical Services at Rehman Medical Institute in Peshawar. Toh once I came out of the Army, Mhm. toh phir mujhe I got an opportunity to work as Director Medical Services in Rehman Medical Institute, Peshawar.
  16. He completed a master's in hospital management. Uske baad then you do Masters in hospital management and then you become a hospital manager.
  17. He says his master's was done in an Army setup, linked to Quaid-e-Azam University. Ji, Quaid-e-Azam University thi but it was done in Army setup.
  18. He worked at AFIC in Rawalpindi. So then I got a chance to work in AFIC. Achha. AFIC you know. Right. It's in Rawalpindi.
  19. He was administrative officer at AFIC. I was that administrative officer of that setup.
  20. He found the weekly travel between Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Peshawar tiring while his children were growing. Phir my children because bachche mere growing the toh mujhe weekending karni padti thi Peshawar. Right. Uh Islamabad, Pindi, Peshawar, every week going and coming. That was tiring.
  21. He then returned to Rawalpindi. Aur phir uske baad main yahan pe wapas Pindi mein aa gaya.
  22. He came to know Dr. Iqbal, who said he wanted to build a hospital. After about two to three years, I came across Dr. Iqbal. Right. He just met me and here in his clinic and he told me that he wants to make a hospital.
  23. Dr. Iqbal asked him to join and to make a presentation. Yaar, I want to make a hospital. Can you join me? Uh can you make a presentation?
  24. He says he joined in 2010 or 2011. Uh in 2011, 10 ki main baat kar raha hoon jab maine join kiya.
  25. Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan is the CEO of Kulsum International Hospital. Dr. Muhammad Saleem Khan is the CEO of Kulsum International Hospital.
  26. He says he was allowed to fully implement his plans at the hospital, and that everything there has passed through his hands. They allowed me to you know fully implement what I wanted to do aur jo bhi aap dekh rahe hain wahan pe, each and everything has passed through my hands.
  27. He says Kulsum International Hospital started with 40 beds and now has 100. From 40 beds, we gradually kept on you know increasing beds and now it is 100 bedded hospital.
  28. He says the hospital has CT scan, MRI, radiology, ultrasound and X-ray services. this building has CT scan, MRI, radiology, ultrasound, X-rays, phir non-invasive cardiology, echo
  29. He says the hospital does cardiac surgery and valve replacements. Ab wahan pe Muzamil sahab cardiac surgery hoti hai, Mhm. valve replacements hote hain.
  30. He says the hospital offers angioplasty, laparoscopic surgery, knee and hip replacements, and ENT surgery. Angioplasties, difficult angioplasties hoti hain, laparoscopic surgeries hoti hain, knee replacements, hip replacements hoti hain, ENT ki surgeries hoti hain
  31. He says the hospital building was not purpose-built. And it is not a purpose built hospital.
  32. He says the hospital has no spare beds and cannot add more. All beds are filled. I don't have extra beds. I cannot create more beds.
  33. He says the hospital does emergency angioplasty, with a door-to-balloon time of about 40 minutes. hamara door to balloon time kaha jata hai ek ke aap darwaze pe aaye aur kab aapki angioplasty ho gayi. So it's about 40 minutes.
  34. He says the land has been secured, the legal matters are being settled, and groundbreaking is expected in December or January. We have the land now. Okay. We have the land. We have got all the now legal things are being settled and we expect earth breaking in December, maybe January.
  35. He says the new project will have 200 to 250 beds and diagnostics. We will have say 200 beds 250 and diagnostics.
  36. He says a 500-bed hospital is being built. So it is a 500 bedded hospital which is coming up.
  37. He places the site on Kashmir Highway, towards the airport, where towers have already been built. Inside 18 jahan pe agar aap jayein Kashmir highway pe towards airport towers to abhi ban chuke hain wahan pe.
  38. He says the medical city will include medical, dental, pharmacy and physiotherapy colleges, along with allied sciences, nursing and a university. isme medical college, dental college, pharmacy college, physiotherapy college, allied sciences and nurses and Kulsoom University.
  39. He says Kulsum Medical City is planned as a training institute. Kulsoom Medical City could potentially be a It will be a training institute.
  40. He says they are not getting quality nurses, so they will have their own nursing college. we are not getting quality nurses so we will have our nursing college there.
  41. He says the goal behind training is good doctors, nurses and technicians, with patient safety as the purpose. So we want good doctors, good nurses, good technicians. Sab ka ek hi purpose hai patient safety and good treatment
  42. He expects some staff shortfall, but says good pay may limit it. Hamein deficiency aayegi lekin if they are paid well to shayad deficiency hamein us tarah na aaye jaise aap expect kar rahe hain.
  43. He says doctors will not return just for patriotic reasons, because the world runs on incentives. Koi bhi is wajah se nahi aayega ke yaar dharti maa ki khatir. Uh nahi iske liye nahi hai the world is incentive is inherently capitalistic
  44. He believes the cost of healthcare services is currently low. mera zati khayal yeh hai ke kahin na kahin is waqt cost of uh jo aapki service hai woh kam hai.
  45. He says Pakistan runs 70% on SMEs, which do not buy insurance. like Pakistan 70% SME pe chal raha hai. SME jo hai woh insurance nahi karwati.
  46. He says most insurance cover is held by employees, and individuals rarely buy it. Individuals kam karate hain, bahut kam karate hain. Woh log jo employees hain unki insurances zyada chal rahi hain.
  47. He expects private enterprise to rise rapidly across industries, including healthcare. Pakistan mein uh private enterprise is going to rise very very rapidly in the coming years and across all industries uh healthcare being one of them.
  48. He notes that 50 to 60 percent of Pakistan's population is under 30. hum kehte hain ji 50, 60% hamari youth population hai less than the age of 30.
  49. He expects demand for maternity and child care to grow sharply in the next five to ten years. Abhi to agle paanch se 10 saal ke andar bahut massively mujhe lagta hai ke maternity and uh child care ki yeh growth aayegi
  50. He says cancer is spreading widely in Pakistan, in many forms and body parts. Aapki environment mein carcinogens hain bahut zyada aur cancer bahut zyada phail raha hai mukhtalif shaklon mein, mukhtalif body parts mein.
  51. He says 400 to 500 people or more come into contact with the hospital every day. So more than 400, 500 people touch us every day.
  52. He says the payback time for a hospital is no less than 7 to 8 years. iska jo payback time hai na woh 7 8 saal se kam nahi hai.
  53. He says Pakistan as a nation lacks patience. We don't have patience. As a nation we don't have patience.
  54. He says the hospital is named after the mother of Dr. Iqbal. Madam Kulsoom yeh Kulsoom International Hospital hai. Kulsoom Madam Kulsoom is mother of Dr. Iqbal Saifullah.
  55. He says one incentive in the work is the welfare of people: they pay, but they are relieved. ismein ek incentive yeh hai ke welfare of the people. No doubt people pay but they are relieved.
  56. He estimates a hospital costs at least 25 billion, with land separate. Toh 25 billion toh minimum. Including land? No main hospital ka bata raha hoon mere toh chuke model mein zehen mein apni land hai na. Achha. Land is separate.
  57. He says his hospital pays doctors on intensive care night duties more than 100k. mere paas doctor koi night duties karte hain intensive care mein karte hain toh more than 100k hum unko pay karte hain.
  58. He says new doctors are put on probation and supervised until they work independently. hum probation pe rakhte hain train karte hain supervise karte hain saath leke chalte hain aur ahista ahista ahista then he is independent.
  59. He says doctors will still be needed, though one doctor may now see far more patients. they will still be there except a single doctor may have been able to service 100 patients previously now they can service a thousand patients.
  60. He says the world has far too many patients and far too few doctors. there are way too many patients in the world and way too few doctors
  61. He says artificial intelligence will revolutionise the whole system. It will revolutionize the whole system.
  62. He uses an analogy: a car can be autonomous, but the driver will stay human. the car can be autonomous but driver human rahega.
  63. He says doctors will not become obsolete. Pehli baat toh yeh hai ke doctors obsolete nahi honge.
  64. He names design thinkers, creative thinkers, critical thinkers and agile leadership. Woh maine jaise guzarish ki thi ke design thinkers, creative thinkers, critical thinkers and agile leadership.
  65. He says medical advancement needs studies and cannot happen without them. Medical mein advancement ke liye studies bahut zaroori hain uske baghair nahi ho sakta.
  66. He says new technology will come to Pakistan and the country will have to upgrade. It will come to Pakistan aur humein jaise ek cheez aati hai nayi we have to upgrade ourselves.
  67. He says some people still want to see a doctor face to face rather than online. Kyunke phir logon ko woh ek satisfaction ke yaar seeing the doctor face to face
  68. He says his generation first saw light arrive in his village. We are from a generation jinhone apne gaon mein light first time aate dekhi.
  69. He expects the progress of the last 20 years to happen again in the next 10. To main ye samajhta hoon ke jo tarakki humne 20 saal mein dekhi hai wo ab agle 10 saal mein hone ja rahi hai.
  70. He accepts that Pakistan is late in technology compared with other countries. Yahan pe technology usi tarah hi in hogi jaise humne baki mulkon mein hote dekhi hai. Hum late hain.
  71. He says the current difficulties are temporary. Abhi jo cheezein aage ja rahi hain Muzamil sahab wo temporary hain.
  72. He expects things to settle into a stable environment. The things will fall in line. Nature will fall in line. They will come to a stable environment.
  73. He believes stability will come once a normal political process and a bona fide government begin. Main ye samajhta hoon ke jis time pe Pakistan mein normal ek political process start ho jata hai aur ek regular government, ek bonafide government start ho jati hai.
  74. He says that once all these things are documented, consumption of medicine will come under control. Jab ye sari cheezein document hongi na, apna Muzamil sahab aap dekhiyega ke aapki consumption of medicine control mein aa jayegi.
  75. He says the machines, companies, pharmaceutical companies and disposable companies across the healthcare industry all have interests. Inke sath sari health care industry mein sari machines, companies, pharmaceutical companies, disposable companies, in sab ke interests hote hain.
  76. He says he is very positive about Pakistan's future. And I'm very positive about it.