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Six years on the record. One long argument with the future.
Two shows, 500+ unhurried conversations with the people actually building. The body of work that pressure-tested the arc. thesis before anyone outside this room knew it had a name.
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Show 01 · The flagship
Thought Behind Things
500+ long-form conversations with the people building the future.
500+ deep-dive interviews across boardrooms, cabinet rooms, factory floors, and lecture halls. Founders raising their first million sit next to CEOs running multi-billion-dollar groups; federal ministers sit next to PhD economists. The longest-running long-form conversation in Pakistan — and the one most operators are listening to.
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Jun 20, 2026
The space economy's real wealth is in the startups under SpaceX
Muzamil reads the space-tech decade through one variable: the falling cost of reaching orbit. As that number drops, hundreds of companies and millions of jobs open up beneath the headline names.
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Jun 16, 2026
SpaceX's IPO is a pump. The space industry is real.
Muzamil reads the SpaceX IPO line by line: a 2 trillion dollar valuation on 18 billion in revenue and a 5 billion dollar loss, the index-fund rule that forces the buy, and why the real value is the hundred startups underneath.
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Jun 9, 2026
How Asad Mehmood landed Mattermost from Pakistan before A levels
with Asad Mehmood
Asad Mehmood walked into Mattermost before he had A levels, crossed two million dollars on Upwork, and now runs a design agency from Pakistan. He sat with Muzamil to lay out the framework underneath it: become undeniably good, then become visible, then sell outcomes.
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Inside the show →Seven buckets the body of work keeps returning to. Pick the conversation that maps to what you're chasing.
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Beyond the Bubble Podcast
AI beyond the financial bubble - what lasts once the hype dies and the narrative flips.
The news only talks about the money. Beyond the Bubble talks about the technology. Every episode is a conversation with the people actually building - separating the use-cases that survive from the ones that vanish when the bubble bursts. The thesis is simple: every world-changing technology arrives wrapped in a financial mania, from the railways to the dot-com bust. The mania fades. The technology stays and reshapes everything. We're here for what stays.
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Jun 26, 2026
MCP is the new front end for the agent internet
with Pierre-Louis Theron
Pierre-Louis Theron, co-founder and CEO of Alpic, argues the Google search bar is being replaced by AI-native interfaces, and MCP is the protocol that will rewire how the internet gets consumed.
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Jun 19, 2026
Crypto rails won. The crypto narrative didn't.
with Paul Dubé
Paul Dubé on why Web3's revolutionary promise quietly collapsed into banking infrastructure, what that tells us about the AI cycle now underway, and where money is actually moving next.
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Jun 11, 2026
Australia is ten years behind on enterprise AI adoption
with Jenny Vo
Jenny Vo, founder of Hera Digital, on selling AI sales infrastructure in a market that still treats ChatGPT as a chat interface, why 69% of pipeline dies at follow-up, and why replacing humans with AI is a bad commercial bet.
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Essays distilled from the body of work.
Long-form syntheses that compress what dozens of conversations have made clear. Read here, then go back to the source episode each one is built on.
Slow is the new fast.
Everyone is racing to ship faster. The builders who win the AI era are doing the opposite - moving deliberately while the crowd panics.
Read the essay →MCP is the new front end for the agent internet
If chat and agent interfaces replace websites as the entry point to the internet, every business will need an AI-native surface. MCP is the early candidate for that surface, and the discovery layer on top of it is still wide open.
Read the essay →The space economy's real wealth is in the startups under SpaceX
The real opportunity is not the SpaceX IPO but the layer of startups and jobs forming beneath it as launch costs collapse.
Read the essay →Crypto rails won. The crypto narrative didn't.
The same pattern that turned crypto from a revolution into plumbing is already shaping AI. Builders who recognize the pattern early get to own the rails. Everyone else trades the narrative.
Read the essay →Guest Atlas
The people who shaped the argument.
Founders, operators, and thinkers who've sat across the table on the record. The beginning of a rolodex that's still growing.
Showing 12 of 400+ guests over six years. Full atlas coming as the 500-episode body of work indexes.
Origin
I started recording these because the conversations I was already having in private felt more important than anything I was reading in public. Six years later, the archive is the thesis.
- Muzamil Hasan, on why Thought Behind Things exists.
First episode
2020
Avg. length
62 min
Region rank
#1 in Pakistan
Tech & Business
Languages
Urdu · English
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