Omar Moeen Malik, Omar Aftab, Huzaifa Ahmed
Easypaisa, RIZQ
Compiled from 1 recorded interview. Every statement below is drawn from the passage cited beside it.
Omar Moeen Malik, Omar Aftab, Huzaifa Ahmed are, respectively, the CXO of Easypaisa, the CEO of Pink Ribbon and a co-founder of RIZQ. Malik says he is one of the founder members of Easypaisa, dating to 2008. Aftab says he founded Pink Ribbon in Pakistan, and Ahmed says RIZQ was started with two friends.
Contents
Early life and education
Malik says he did his bachelor's degree in the United States. Ahmed says the RIZQ idea began while he was studying at LUMS. Ahmed also says his mother had been hosting a dastarkhwan at home for about 15 to 20 years. [1]
Aftab says he comes from a business family and was an activist during his student days. He says he worked on women's rights, HIV AIDS and environment issues. [1]
Easypaisa
Malik is the CXO of Easypaisa. He says he heads Easypaisa and reports to the CEO, and that he is one of its founder members, dating to 2008. Malik says he was part of Telenor Pakistan. He says Easypaisa started in 2008 as a shop-to-shop money transfer service and first targeted blue collar migrant workers as customers. [1]
Malik says it took Easypaisa 12 to 14 years to go from zero to 10 million customers, and expects it to reach 20 million customers in about half the time. He says smartphone penetration started to pick up in 2015. Malik says Easypaisa has the largest agent network today and has become a super app by offering many services. He adds that Easypaisa has exposed its APIs to all third parties. [1]
Malik says digital accounts come in four variants, and that one type has a limit of 10 lakh rupees per month. He says salaried employees who upload a salary slip get higher limits. Customers can apply for an account in the Easypaisa app, on iOS or Android, he says, and checking the submitted photographs takes a period of two working days. Malik says an account becomes level one when a customer presses a thumb on the biometric device at any Easypaisa agent. He also says users can upgrade to level one in real time by scanning their fingerprints with the phone camera. [1]
Malik says Easypaisa is licensed by the State Bank and must meet compliance and KYC requirements. He says Easypaisa has signed up more than 35 large charity organisations. [1]
Views on cash and fintech
Malik says the benefits of eliminating cash would be very large. He estimates that printing one currency note costs more than five or six rupees. He says cash use is large compared with total banking deposits, and that only 20 to 30 million people are unique bank account users. [1]
Malik says smartphone penetration in the country is around 50 to 60 percent and that Visa and Mastercard style models are very expensive. He says the State Bank supports fintech innovation and that many digital retail banking licences will be issued soon. [1]
Malik says this generation is not confused and is very clear. He says he is very hopeful that Pakistan will emerge as the country people always imagined. [1]
Pink Ribbon
Aftab is the CEO of Pink Ribbon. He says he founded Pink Ribbon in Pakistan, and that a woman asked him to help her set up something for breast cancer awareness, which is how he became involved. Aftab says Pink Ribbon was a volunteer driven organisation, and that its model is to run as a social enterprise. [1]
Aftab says TV channels blacked out the campaign launch when it was formally launched in 2004. He says no US or UK aid funds breast cancer work, and that an organisation came back to Pink Ribbon for support ten years later. Aftab says it took Pink Ribbon 20 years to reach this point, and that Pink Ribbon got the government to set up a national screening programme. [1]
Aftab says Pink Ribbon's youth programme has been its most effective awareness work, and that it visits many colleges and universities across Pakistan. He says Pink Ribbon has seen many cases where families hid a patient. Aftab says Pink Ribbon now focuses heavily on lifestyle and food advocacy with the government. [1]
Aftab says Pink Ribbon is setting up Pakistan's first dedicated breast cancer hospital in Lahore, and that diagnostics will be 100 percent free for everyone. He says Pink Ribbon has started a free clinic. Aftab says diagnostics involve costs for doctors and laboratories, so some sustainable revenue is required, and that Pink Ribbon has been running a full-fledged fundraising campaign. He says the zakat campaign relies heavily on digital platforms. [1]
Views on breast cancer
Aftab says one in nine women is at risk of breast cancer and that about 40,000 reported breast cancer deaths occur each year. He says breast cancer is the only cancer whose symptoms are external, that the first step in early detection is self examination, and that survival chances exceed 90 percent when it is diagnosed early. [1]
Aftab says issues related to women are generally tied to a patriarchal society. He says India's breast cancer risk is 1 in 22, and that steroids are used in producing chicken and goat meat. [1]
RIZQ
Ahmed is a co-founder of RIZQ. He says RIZQ was started with two friends, Musa and Qasim, and that the founders started with a single Facebook page over one weekend. Ahmed says food was being wasted at the LUMS cafeteria, and that he and his friends collected food by car at night. [1]
Ahmed says RIZQ's first programme was food wastage reduction. He says RIZQ's first restaurant on board was a well-known restaurant with a branch in Lahore. He also says the team stopped collecting food from one restaurant for three to four months during a difficult period. [1]
Ahmed says the team at first hesitated to ask for money and that the founders did not initially want to become a charity. He says RIZQ moved from asking for general donations to asking for specific products. Ahmed says the last 10 days of March raised more than six months of his earlier fundraising. [1]
Ahmed says RIZQ's ration model gives families a smart card to buy subsidised food from its food banks, and that families go through a screening process before receiving a smart card. He says RIZQ builds small food banks, small touch points where families register. Ahmed says RIZQ focuses on food availability and accessibility through an ecosystem, and that it uses fintech to make its donation cycles easier. [1]
Views on charity and Pakistan
Ahmed says the issue is a matter of social injustice in society, beyond feeding people. He says a figure of 40 percent food waste is cited but lacks statistical backing. Ahmed says charity in Pakistan is undocumented because people do not want to lose the personal connection. [1]
Ahmed says the idea is to build a community based on sharing. He says the larger an organisation grows, the more its processes can be optimised, and that the petrol to deliver a small leftover portion can cost almost as much as the food. He says social enterprises are building sustainability into their business models. [1]
Ahmed says he intensely works with a large pool of youth. He says he has his bets on Pakistan for the next 10 to 20 years and that Pakistan's challenges can be solved. [1]
Timeline
- 2008
- Easypaisa started as a shop-to-shop money transfer service, according to Malik.[1]
Appearances
| Date | Title | Where |
|---|---|---|
| 2022-04-25 | Pakistan's cash economy and the fintech fixing it | Thought Behind Things |
Frequently asked questions
Who is Omar Moeen Malik, Omar Aftab, Huzaifa Ahmed?
Omar Moeen Malik, Omar Aftab, Huzaifa Ahmed are, respectively, the CXO of Easypaisa, the CEO of Pink Ribbon and a co-founder of RIZQ. Omar Moeen Malik says he is one of the founder members of Easypaisa. Omar Aftab says he founded Pink Ribbon in Pakistan.[1]
What does Omar Moeen Malik, Omar Aftab, Huzaifa Ahmed do?
Omar Moeen Malik says he heads Easypaisa and reports to the CEO. Omar Aftab is the CEO of Pink Ribbon, which he says he founded. Huzaifa Ahmed is a co-founder of RIZQ.[1]
Where did Omar Moeen Malik, Omar Aftab, Huzaifa Ahmed study?
Omar Moeen Malik says he did his bachelor's degree in the United States. Huzaifa Ahmed says the RIZQ idea began while he was studying at LUMS.[1]
What company did Omar Moeen Malik, Omar Aftab, Huzaifa Ahmed found?
Omar Aftab says he founded Pink Ribbon in Pakistan. Omar Moeen Malik says he is one of the founder members of Easypaisa, dating to 2008. Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ was started with two friends, Musa and Qasim.[1]
When did Easypaisa start?
Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa started in 2008 as a shop-to-shop money transfer service. He says it first targeted blue collar migrant workers as customers.[1]
What is Pink Ribbon, according to Omar Aftab?
Omar Aftab says he founded Pink Ribbon in Pakistan and that it was a volunteer driven organisation. He says Pink Ribbon is setting up Pakistan's first dedicated breast cancer hospital in Lahore and has started a free clinic.[1]
How did Huzaifa Ahmed start RIZQ?
Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ was started with two friends, Musa and Qasim. He says the founders started with a single Facebook page over one weekend and that food was being wasted at the LUMS cafeteria.[1]
References
- Pakistan's cash economy and the fintech fixing it . Thought Behind Things , 2022-04-25.
Show the source passages (97 statements)
- Omar Moeen Malik says he heads Easypaisa and reports to the CEO.
I head EasyPaisa and I report to the CEO
- Omar Moeen Malik says he is one of the founder members of Easypaisa, dating to 2008.
So I'm one of the founder members uh back in 2008.
- Omar Moeen Malik says he was part of Telenor Pakistan.
I was part of Telenor Pakistan
- Omar Moeen Malik says he did his bachelor's degree in the United States.
when I did my bachelors in the US
- Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa started in 2008 as a shop-to-shop money transfer service.
Hum log shuru hue the 2008 mein basic services jo hamari thi woh kya tha ke yaar ek dukan se dusri dukan pe paise bhejna, money transfer.
- Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa first targeted blue collar migrant workers as customers.
jisko hum uh jisko hum pitch kar rahe the was uh the blue collar migrant workers
- Omar Moeen Malik says smartphone penetration started to pick up in 2015.
2015 mein smartphone penetration pickup hona shuru ho gayi
- Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa has the largest agent network today.
We are the largest agent network today.
- Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa has become a super app by offering many services.
So in a way we have become a super app because now we are offering a lot of services.
- Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa has exposed its APIs to all third parties.
hum logon ne apni API's expose kar di hain to all third parties
- Omar Moeen Malik says the benefits of eliminating cash would be very large.
agar hum cash ko eliminate kar dein toh uske fawaid bahut zyada hain
- Omar Moeen Malik estimates that printing one currency note costs more than five or six rupees.
It's I think more than 5 or 6 rupees right now.
- Omar Moeen Malik says only 20 to 30 million people are unique bank account users.
Unique bank account user sirf 20 se 30 million
- Omar Moeen Malik says smartphone penetration in the country is around 50 to 60 percent.
smartphone penetration is around 50-60 percent in the country anyways right now
- Omar Moeen Malik says Visa and Mastercard style models are very expensive.
MasterCard aur Visa ki is tarah ke kuch models hain but they are very expensive
- Omar Moeen Malik says one type of digital account has a limit of 10 lakh rupees per month.
Aasaan digital account ki limits 10 lakh rupay per month
- Omar Moeen Malik says an account becomes level one when a customer presses a thumb on the biometric device at any Easypaisa agent.
aap kisi bhi agent pe jaiye EasyPaisa ki wahan pe biometric device pe angootha lagaiye to aapka account level one ban jaata hai
- Omar Moeen Malik says users can upgrade to level one in real time by scanning their fingerprints with the phone camera.
apne camera se phone camera se apni fingerprints ko scan karke aap real time mein upgrade kar sakte hain level one pe
- Omar Moeen Malik says customers can apply for an account in the Easypaisa app, on iOS or Android.
Aap apni EasyPaisa app mein iOS ho ya Android ho abhi baith ke karein aap apply karein uske liye
- Omar Moeen Malik says digital accounts come in four variants.
yeh uh jo digital accounts hain unke char variants hain
- Omar Moeen Malik says salaried employees who upload a salary slip get higher limits.
if you are a salaried employee uh employee aap apni salary slip update uh upload kar dein you get even higher limits
- Omar Moeen Malik says checking the submitted photographs takes a period of two working days.
kyunke tasveerein hain to humein check karni hoti hain so we have a period of two working days
- Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa is licensed by the State Bank and must meet compliance and KYC requirements.
because hum log ek formal financial service hain, licensed by the State Bank, toh humein toh apni compliance poori karni hai, KYC
- Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa has signed up more than 35 large charity organisations.
today we are signed up with more than 35 uh big charity organizations jo hamare saath listed hain
- Omar Moeen Malik says the State Bank supports fintech innovation.
the State Bank is supporting all of this
- Omar Moeen Malik says many digital retail banking licences will be issued soon.
there are a lot of digital retail banking licenses which are going to be issued very shortly
- Omar Moeen Malik says Easypaisa expects to reach 20 million customers in about half the time it took to reach 10 million.
it's not going to take us another 12 years to go to 2 crore. It's going to take us maybe half the time or even less than that
- Omar Moeen Malik says it took Easypaisa 12 to 14 years to go from zero to 10 million customers.
humein agar 12, 14 saal lage hain for EasyPaisa to get from zero customers to 10 million customers
- Omar Moeen Malik says this generation is not confused and is very clear.
matlab this generation is not confused. They are very clear
- Omar Moeen Malik says he is very hopeful that Pakistan will emerge as the country people always imagined.
I am very hopeful ki we will emerge as as the Pakistan we always thought of
- Omar Moeen Malik says cash use is large compared with total banking deposits.
The amount of cash that is used in our country as a percentage of the total banking deposits is huge.
- Omar Aftab says he comes from a business family.
I come from a business family
- Omar Aftab says he was an activist during his student days.
ab main apne student uh ke time se hi bada kuch thoda activist tha
- Omar Aftab says he worked on women's rights, HIV AIDS and environment issues.
bahut arsa women rights pe aur HIV AIDS pe, environment pe bahut saari cheezon pe kaam kiya
- Omar Aftab says he founded Pink Ribbon in Pakistan.
In fact, I founded Pink Ribbon in Pakistan.
- Omar Aftab says a woman asked him to help her set up something for breast cancer awareness, and that is how he became involved.
initially she asked me to help her to set up something for breast cancer awareness. So that's how I got involved
- Omar Aftab says one in nine women is at risk of breast cancer.
unfortunately har 9 mein se ek khatoon jo hai woh breast cancer ke risk pe hai
- Omar Aftab says about 40,000 reported breast cancer deaths occur each year.
Every year jo reported deaths hain breast cancer se woh takreeban 40,000 hain
- Omar Aftab says TV channels blacked out the campaign launch when it was formally launched in 2004.
jab humne campaign ko formally launch kiya 2004 mein toh jo hamari jo launching thi woh jitne TV channels the un sabne black out kar di
- Omar Aftab says the first step in breast cancer early detection is self examination.
Early detection breast cancer mein jo first step hai woh yeh hai ki kisi bhi khatoon ne apna self examination karna hai
- Omar Aftab says breast cancer is the only cancer whose symptoms are external.
breast cancer jo hai yeh wahid aisa cancer hai jiske jo symptoms hain yeh external hote hain
- Omar Aftab says survival chances exceed 90 percent when breast cancer is diagnosed early.
agar yeh early diagnose ho jaye toh isme jo bachne ke chances hain woh 90 fisad se zyada hain
- Omar Aftab says issues related to women are generally tied to a patriarchal society.
hamare yahan khawateen se related generally saare issues hi ek somehow patriarchal society hai
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon has seen many cases where families hid a patient.
betahasha aise cases humne itne saalon mein dekhein ke jahan pe agar ek patient ko pata bhi lag gaya hai toh usko ghar wale chupa lete hain
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon's youth programme has been its most effective awareness work.
hamara jo sabse effective program awareness mein raha woh hamara youth program hai
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon visits many colleges and universities across Pakistan.
hum bahut zyada colleges universities mein jate hain across Pakistan
- Omar Aftab says it took Pink Ribbon 20 years to reach this point.
It took us 20 years to reach to this point.
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon got the government to set up a national screening programme.
humne toh ek dafa ek national screening program government se banwa liya
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon now focuses heavily on lifestyle and food advocacy with the government.
hum abhi hum lifestyle ke upar bahut zyada focus kar rahe hain hum food ke hawale se government ke sath bahut zyada advocacy kar rahe hain
- Omar Aftab says India's breast cancer risk is 1 in 22.
India mein jo yeh risk hai yeh 1 in 22 hai
- Omar Aftab says steroids are used in producing chicken and goat meat.
hamare sirf chicken mein nahi matlab hamare baaki bhi goat mein bhi isko bhi produce karne mein steroids use ho rahe hain
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon is setting up Pakistan's first dedicated breast cancer hospital in Lahore.
hum Lahore mein we are setting up Pakistan's first dedicated breast cancer hospital
- Omar Aftab says diagnostics will be 100 percent free for everyone.
lekin diagnostic ke liye toh it will be 100% free for everyone
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon has started a free clinic.
humne free clinic Alhamdulillah shuru kar di hai
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon was a volunteer driven organisation.
hum ek volunteer driven organization the
- Omar Aftab says no US or UK aid funds breast cancer work.
koi US aid ya UK aid ya koi isko fund nahi karta
- Omar Aftab says an organisation came back to Pink Ribbon for support ten years later.
usi organization ne phir 10 saal ke baad humein jo hai woh they came back to us to to to support
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon's model is to run as a social enterprise.
hamara model hi yeh raha ke hum kaise isko ek social enterprise woh uh ka model mein rakhein
- Omar Aftab says diagnostics involve costs for doctors and laboratories, so some sustainable revenue is required.
wahan pe diagnostics mein zahir hai doctors ki cost hai, lab ki cost hai, un tamam cheezon ki cost hai. So you will require some sort of a sustainable revenue
- Omar Aftab says Pink Ribbon has been running a full-fledged fundraising campaign.
we have been running a full-fledged uh fundraising campaign
- Omar Aftab says the zakat campaign relies heavily on digital platforms.
hamari jo zakat campaign hai uh us mein hum bahut major jo rely kar rahe hain woh digital platforms ke upar rely kar rahe hain
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the RIZQ idea began while he was studying at LUMS.
Um aur isko humne jab LUMS mein padh rahe the so hum apne dusre saal mein the college ke
- Huzaifa Ahmed says his mother had been hosting a dastarkhwan at home for about 15 to 20 years.
woh meri walida uh pichle kaafi arse se takreeban 15 20 saal se hamare culture mein hum dekhte hain woh ek dastarkhwan kar rahi thi apne ghar mein
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ was started about seven years before this conversation.
rizq humne shuru kiya tha uh takreeban 7 saal pehle
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ was started with two friends, Musa and Qasim.
So yeh meri akeli kawish nahi thi mere sath do dost aur bhi hain Musa aur Qasim
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the founders started with a single Facebook page over one weekend.
humne ek weekend ke upar humne sirf ek Facebook ka page banaya
- Huzaifa Ahmed says food was being wasted at the LUMS cafeteria.
khana bada zaya hota hai hamare LUMS ke cafeteria mein zaya ho raha hai
- Huzaifa Ahmed says he and his friends collected food by car at night.
hum apni gaadiyan pe jate the khana collect karte the raat ko humein milta tha 11:00 11:30 baje
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the team stopped collecting food from one restaurant for three to four months during a difficult period.
humne teen char mahine us depression aur soch ke andar monal se khana hi nahi pick kiya
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ's first restaurant on board was a well-known restaurant with a branch in Lahore.
hamara ek pehla restaurant on board hua badi khushi hui ki ek woh Monal the famous restaurant unki branch Lahore mein thi
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the issue is a matter of social injustice in society, beyond feeding people.
yeh ek khana khilane se badhkar ek mashre ki ek social injustice ka masla hai
- Huzaifa Ahmed says a figure of 40 percent food waste is cited but lacks statistical backing.
ki 40% khana zaya hota hai lekin koi statistical backing nahi hai us data ki
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ's ration model gives families a smart card to buy subsidised food from its food banks.
Ration model is just about we we provide smart card to families aur uske against they can buy from our food banks, they can come and buy a subsidized ration.
- Huzaifa Ahmed says families go through a screening process before receiving a smart card.
There is a screening process that goes behind that program. Uske baad ek smart card issue hota hai
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ builds small food banks, small touch points where families register.
hamare chhote chhote food banks bante hain, aise aise chhote touch points bante hain jahan pe families register hoti hain
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ's first programme was food wastage reduction.
Food wastage, risk bachao is the premier jisse hum shuru huye the
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ focuses on food availability and accessibility through an ecosystem.
developing an ecosystem jahan pe hum food ki availability aur iski accessibility ke upar bahut zyada kaam kar rahe hain
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ uses fintech to make its donation cycles easier.
fintech jisse hamari donation cycles mein aasani ho rahi hai, hamara ek transparency ki ek added layer add ho rahi hai
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the idea is to build a community based on sharing.
the entire idea is yeh ki hum ek community build karein that is based on sharing
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the larger an organisation grows, the more its processes can be optimised.
mera opinion generally yeh hai ki jitna zyada economy of scale ke upar jaate hain, aap optimize kar sakte hain processes ko
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the petrol to deliver a small leftover portion can cost almost as much as the food.
Aapki gaadi mein 150 rupaye ka toh petrol lag jayega, woh 200 rupaye ka pizza tha
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ has launched a Rizq store, starting with merchandise.
humne ek Rizq store launch kiya hua hai. So Rizq store is where we are, abhi humne merchandise se shuru kiya hai
- Huzaifa Ahmed says one RIZQ venture was conceived as education trips for the Pakistani public and for children.
Rizq Caravan ka concept yeh tha ki humne education trips launch karne the Pakistani awaam ke liye, bachon ke liye
- Huzaifa Ahmed says students pay for the education trips.
those are trips that that students pay for
- Huzaifa Ahmed says proceeds would be reinvested in the charity.
uske proceeds jo hain woh hum reinvest karein apni charity mein
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the team at first hesitated to ask for money.
tab hum log paise maangne se jhijhakte the
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the founders did not initially want to become a charity.
hum log to in charity banna nahi cha rahe the
- Huzaifa Ahmed says RIZQ moved from asking for general donations to asking for specific products.
humne products ke general donation zyada na specific product oriented donation maangna shuru kiye
- Huzaifa Ahmed says charity in Pakistan is undocumented because people do not want to lose the personal connection.
So charity Pakistan mein undocumented isliye hoti hai kyunke people don't want to lose that connection
- Huzaifa Ahmed says the last 10 days of March raised more than six months of his earlier fundraising.
aakhri March ke jo 10 din ka mera paisa raise hua tha, woh that was more than the six month of fundraising that I had done
- Huzaifa Ahmed says social enterprises are building sustainability into their business models.
They are incorporating sustainability within their own business models
- Huzaifa Ahmed says he intensely works with a large pool of youth.
I intensely work, very intensely work with a huge pool of youth
- Huzaifa Ahmed says he has his bets on Pakistan for the next 10 to 20 years.
my all bets are on Pakistan for the next 10-20 years
- Huzaifa Ahmed says Pakistan's challenges can be solved.
Pakistan ke jo challenges hain na, woh solve ho sakte hain
- Omar Moeen Malik is the CXO of Easypaisa, according to the episode description.
CXO Easypaisa, CEO Pinkribbon & Co-founder RIZQ
- Omar Aftab is the CEO of Pink Ribbon, according to the episode description.
CXO Easypaisa, CEO Pinkribbon & Co-founder RIZQ
- Huzaifa Ahmed is a co-founder of RIZQ, according to the episode description.
CXO Easypaisa, CEO Pinkribbon & Co-founder RIZQ