Abdul Rehman Najam
founder of ARN Financial Advisors
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Abdul Rehman Najam is a value investor and the founder and CEO of ARN Financial Advisors, which helps individuals and businesses navigate financial markets. He has a background in Economics from the University of Warwick and runs a YouTube channel where he regularly shares insights and updates on Pakistani markets and the economy. The firm focuses on financial literacy and investment management.
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Early life and background
Najam grew up in Karachi in a joint family. His family was in the steel industry. The family business grew into several factories, and each was handed to a son. He is the youngest in his family. [2]
Education
Najam got good results in his O Level and A Level exams. He went to the University of Warwick in 2012. [2]
Career
In 2015, when he came back, Najam looked at Pakistan's stock market and found its long-term returns very good. He read investing books, including Security Analysis and The Intelligent Investor. He also watched Berkshire Hathaway's annual meetings on YouTube. He began attending companies' corporate briefings to understand their businesses. [2]
Najam adapted the investing principles he had learned to the Pakistan market. He described 2019 to 2022 as the third phase of his ten years of learning, in which he understood the importance of practical investing. In 2022 he began writing about the economy and businesses for the first time. He said a community of 25,000 formed within two years and gave good feedback. His team wrote down its investing framework during this period. [2]
ARN Financial Advisors
ARN Financial Advisors has been described as one of the largest financial advisories for investments in Pakistan. The firm runs an investing masterclass and advises people on their portfolios, and it manages one-to-one portfolios for clients. Najam says the firm aims to guide people to invest in a scam-free way and to invest in Pakistan's top businesses. He said most such scams run through crypto and similar products. [1][2]
Najam says the firm launched its advisory services in July 2024. The investing masterclass launched in August 2024 with its first batch. He says the advisory services have more than 300 members, or around 1,000 including the masterclass. He also says the company has reached almost 1,000 people. [2]
The firm holds monthly calls that last four to five hours. When a company joins the model portfolio, the firm sends a five to ten minute voice note explaining why. Within two to three weeks, the firm uploads a 30 to 40 minute video on the company. Najam says the firm has made detailed videos on 10 to 15 companies. He says the firm answers members' weekly questions through voice notes, which it calls collective wisdom. [2]
Najam says the firm provides recorded course material for members. He says clients who have been with the firm for about nine to ten months invest, on average, over 40% of their savings. He says the firm's first clients included several of Pakistan's top business owners. He says the firm does not issue daily buy and sell signals. [2]
Investment philosophy
Najam follows Warren Buffett's principle of investing only in what you fully understand. He says the first investing step is fully understanding each company's back-end business, and the second is judging the level of undervaluation. He says investors should judge each company's long-term ability to make profit and should act only when the key factors of a company change. He compares researching the stock market to journalism and calls the stock market a puzzle. He said he always tells people that Ray Dalio has written a very strong book. [2]
Najam says the firm's investing framework has a third pillar, which he calls the concept of best investment. He says politics is the fourth pillar of his market framework. He says his team's formula, 20 minus the interest rate, fits Pakistan's market well. He says the average return in Pakistan's boom cycles is 30 to 35%. [2]
Najam says an advisor's job is analysis and best advice, not guarantees. He says the firm avoided telling clients that a 70% one-year return would repeat. He says trading carries about a 90% chance of loss, while he thinks about 90% of people can do long-term investing. He describes technical analysis as a battle with other market participants and says investing is ultimately a game of conviction. [2]
Views on Pakistan's markets and economy
Najam says the reality of Pakistan's stock market is good, but its public story is poor. He says Pakistan's index was about 1,000 on 1 January 1999 and is about 125,000 now. He says the Pakistan stock market has returned about 125 times over the period he compared, against about 50 times for the US stock market since 1 January 1999. He estimates Pakistan's average GDP growth over 25 years was about 4% or less. [2]
Najam cites Meezan Bank as a stock that gave strong returns over the past 10 years. He cited a petroleum company, since renamed an energy company, as having a very good long-term return. He says the reality of real estate returns is poor, though its story is appealing. [2]
Najam says Pakistani firms have had good past returns but rarely communicated with investors. He says that until three or four years ago, brokerage houses were the only advisors in Pakistan. He says financial influencers and advisors play a large role where investing adoption is high. He estimates that about 350,000 accounts are open directly with brokerage houses in Pakistan. He argues that the value someone creates through services can be 100 times their own portfolio. [2]
Najam says he is very bullish on Pakistan for 2050 and 2055. He names a young population as one of Pakistan's two main strengths. He says no major structural reform has happened in Pakistan in the past 25 years. He argues that part of Pakistan's economic growth problem is that people do not invest. [2]
Views on crypto
Najam says crypto has no inherent value creation and no productivity. He argues that crypto is harder to understand than stocks. He argues that if Bitcoin becomes digital gold, its return over 25 years could not exceed about 25 times. He says commercial Bitcoin mining is not viable in Pakistan. [2]
Views on the oil shock and Pakistan's economy
Najam said he had spent recent weeks studying the oil shock. He said he believes the worst has already been priced in for the Pakistan Stock Exchange. He said there have been only three instances in the last 40 years where crude oil rose by more than 100% within two months because of a war. He named the Iraq-Kuwait war of 1990, the 2003 Iraq and US war, and the Russia-Ukraine war of 2022 as those three cases. He said his team had made a video on the index and the macro and would make one on individual sectors the following week. [1]
Najam said crude stayed at a very high price for at most six months in all three cases. He said the Pakistan Stock Exchange index hit its low within 25 days of the event in all three cases. He said markets are forward looking, which he called one of the pillars of financial markets. He said the one past case with a prolonged oil subsidy turned the shock into macroeconomic instability. He said he researched the 1990 oil shock. [1]
Najam said that when Pakistan set diesel at 520 rupees, the international price including everything was around $260 a barrel. He said around 30 to 35% of crude oil is used as diesel worldwide, and that diesel usually trades around $30 to $40 a barrel above crude oil. He said demand destruction above $120 crude acts as an automatic stabilizer in the oil market. He said petrol used to cost about 9 rupees per liter and rose to 23 as crude oil rose from about $15 to $35, and that inflation was around 7% and rose to 14 to 15% when the oil price more than doubled. [1]
Najam said the State Bank did not cut rates almost a year earlier, when inflation was 3 to 4%. He said the latest T-bill and PIB auctions point to rates near 12%. He said the level of escalation cannot continue for much longer, though some wars have lasted 10 to 20 years and escalation has to come down. [1]
Najam said Pakistan would have no major devaluation unless its reserves fall below $10 billion, and that Pakistan tends to devalue only when it has no other option. He said he cannot recall a devaluation in the last 30 years when reserves were below two months of import cover. He said reserves would still be about 2.5 months of import cover after the Eurobond repayment, even without new funding. He said devaluation is more than 50% likely if reserves reach around $10 billion. He said that instead of devaluing, Pakistan brought down the open-market rate. [1]
Najam said the UAE dirham and the hawala rate both traded around 77 rupees recently. He said actual remittance inflows have increased during the conflict, and that in COVID informal remittance channels moved to formal ones and the currency appreciated. He said the real remittance impact is likely to play out over three to nine months. He said Pakistan has good relations with Saudi Arabia and plays a major role for its economy and security. He said the biggest indicator of foreign reserves is the relationship with the IMF, and that an IMF staff-level agreement came while Pakistan was giving an oil subsidy. [1]
Najam said 70 to 75% of the diesel Pakistan uses is refined locally, and that Pakistan now imports crude at about $150 a barrel and refines it locally, instead of importing diesel at $250. He said refinery profits would rise a lot, making refineries a beneficiary of the conflict, and that all refineries except one are listed on the Pakistan Stock Exchange. He advocated capping the diesel refining margin at around $60 to $70 during the wartime period, and suggested reducing or capping diesel margins for two to three months. He said refinery profits would rise more than exploration profits if escalation continues. He said demand contracts with the pump price, not with the amount of tax collected. [1]
Najam said the urea bag price will rise by 200 to 300 rupees because of diesel-driven transport costs. He described an unwritten contract: fertilizer makers get gas at a set price and raise bag prices only on cost increases. He said global urea is around $900 a ton, while Pakistan's price converts to about $350 a ton, and that Pakistan is one of the largest urea users in the world, at around 6.5 million tons. [1]
Najam said Fauji Fertilizer and two other fertilizer companies are not affected by the conflict. He said fertilizer companies get fixed-price gas, so their supply is secure. He said fertilizer companies pay out their earnings as dividends because no new gas is allocated for new plants. [1]
Najam said price controls on wheat and sugar have reduced productivity, while deregulated corn has been a success. He said pricing, regulation and politics, including votes from farmers, are a big inefficiency in agriculture. He said urea is the star fertilizer and DAP use is lower than it should be. He said a urea price shock could lead to black marketing and hurt food security. He suggested raising urea toward international prices, with targeted subsidies for small farms. [1]
Najam said food prices should be deregulated. He said he is not a proponent of exporting urea, because that means exporting gas. He said the best case is to run all fertilizer plants, especially urea, with the gas available. [1]
Najam said Pakistan's gas power plants are not working, so coal and furnace oil plants are used instead. He said the coal price has not yet had a shock, but a rise would hit the current account. He said many APIs used in medicines are linked to oil prices. He said EVs could cut oil imports and free up room for capacity payments. He said about 5 million barrels of Saudi oil is now exported through the Red Sea. [1]
Najam says sustained oil prices above 80 would make things hard for Pakistan. He thinks oil prices are most likely to stay between 60 and 65. He says Pakistan faces low political risk from the Iran and Israel conflict. [2]
Najam said that if escalation continues he would favour fertilizer stocks, banks and refineries bought at good prices. He said that if escalation continues he would also look at cement and automobile companies priced very low. He said that with de-escalation he would favour stocks that have fallen sharply. He said the Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSX) index heavyweights are oil and gas exploration, banks and fertilizer companies. [1]
Najam said there is a saying that pessimists sound smart, but optimists make money. He said following the news for a month does not make someone a forecaster. He said his research indicates the bottom is in, though volatility will continue. He advised investing a fixed amount in good companies and reviewing it after six months. He advised against selling when the market is down and buying back when it is up. [1]
Najam advised doubling down on public transport, which he said would solve many of Pakistan's problems. He suggested making transport free for now and possibly recovering half the cost later. He suggested public transport run from about 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. He said Pakistan has around 30 to 35 million motorbikes, and that shops in Pakistan often stay open until 2:00 or 3:00 a.m. [1]
Timeline
- 2012
- Went to the University of Warwick.[2]
- 2015
- Looked at Pakistan's stock market and found its long-term returns very good.[2]
- 2019
- Began what he described as the third phase of his ten years of learning, which ran to 2022 and taught him the importance of practical investing.[2]
- 2022
- Began writing about the economy and businesses for the first time.[2]
- 2024
- ARN launched its advisory services in July and its investing masterclass in August.[2]
Appearances
| Date | Title | Where |
|---|---|---|
| 2026-04-07 | Pessimists sound smart, optimists make money | Thought Behind Things |
| 2025-06-20 | Why Pakistan's stock market is the wealth engine no one trusts | Thought Behind Things |
Frequently asked questions
Who is Abdul Rehman Najam?
Abdul Rehman Najam is a value investor and the founder and CEO of ARN Financial Advisors. The firm helps individuals and businesses navigate financial markets. He has a background in Economics from the University of Warwick.[2]
What does Abdul Rehman Najam do?
Abdul Rehman Najam runs ARN Financial Advisors, which focuses on financial literacy and investment management. The firm runs an investing masterclass and advises people on their portfolios. He also runs a YouTube channel where he regularly shares insights and updates on Pakistani markets and the economy.[1][2]
Where did Abdul Rehman Najam study?
Abdul Rehman Najam went to the University of Warwick in 2012 and has a background in Economics from the university. He also got good results in his O Level and A Level exams.[2]
Where is Abdul Rehman Najam from?
Abdul Rehman Najam grew up in Karachi in a joint family. His family was in the steel industry. He is the youngest in his family.[2]
What company did Abdul Rehman Najam found?
Abdul Rehman Najam is the founder and CEO of ARN Financial Advisors. He says the firm launched its advisory services in July 2024. The investing masterclass launched in August 2024 with its first batch.[2]
What does Abdul Rehman Najam think about crypto?
Abdul Rehman Najam says crypto has no inherent value creation and no productivity. He argues that crypto is harder to understand than stocks. He also says commercial Bitcoin mining is not viable in Pakistan.[2]
What is Abdul Rehman Najam's investment philosophy?
Abdul Rehman Najam follows Warren Buffett's principle of investing only in what you fully understand. He says the first investing step is fully understanding each company's back-end business, and the second is judging the level of undervaluation. He says investors should act only when the key factors of a company change.[2]
References
- Pessimists sound smart, optimists make money . Thought Behind Things , 2026-04-07.
- Why Pakistan's stock market is the wealth engine no one trusts . Thought Behind Things , 2025-06-20.
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- He is CEO and founder of ARN Financial Advisors, described as one of the largest financial advisories for investments in Pakistan.
Abdur Rehman Najam, who is the CEO and founder of ARN Financial Advisors, one of the largest financial advisory for investments in Pakistan.
- He runs a YouTube channel where he regularly shares insights and updates on Pakistani markets and the economy.
He also runs his YouTube channel where he regularly shares insights and updates on the Pakistani markets as well as Pakistan's economy.
- He said he has spent recent weeks studying the oil shock.
I actually have been really busy trying to understand this whole oil shock and the whole work I have done in the last couple of weeks.
- He said he believes the worst has already been priced in for the Pakistan Stock Exchange.
So the Pakistan Stock Exchange, I actually believe the worst has already been priced in and I say this with a couple of you know, frameworks
- He said that when Pakistan set diesel at 520 rupees, the international price including everything was around $260 a barrel.
Last week, when Pakistan set prices of diesel at 520 rupees, the international price including everything was around $260 per barrel
- He said around 30 to 35% of crude oil is used as diesel worldwide.
Almost 30 to 35% crude oil is actually used as diesel by the global world.
- He said diesel usually trades around $30 to $40 a barrel above crude oil.
usually diesel trades around $30 to $40 above crude oil
- He said demand destruction above $120 crude acts as an automatic stabilizer in the oil market.
beyond $120 crude oil, the demand destruction which happens that is an automatic stabilizer in the oil market.
- He said there have been only three instances in the last 40 years where crude oil rose by more than 100% within two months because of a war.
these are the only three instances in the last 40 years where crude oil has increased by more than 100% within two months and the reason was a war.
- He named the Iraq-Kuwait war of 1990, the 2003 Iraq and US war, and the Russia-Ukraine war of 2022 as those three cases.
The first example is the Iraq-Kuwait war in 1990, then the second example is the 2003 Iraq and US war and the last one, most recent and we all remember that, the Russia-Ukraine war in 2022.
- He said crude stayed at a very high price for at most six months in all three cases.
In all three instances, crude oil only stayed at a very high price for maximum six months
- He said the Pakistan Stock Exchange index hit its low within 25 days of the event in all three cases.
In all three instances, if we look at the Pakistan Stock Exchange data, the low of the index came within 25 days of the event happening.
- He said markets are forward looking, which he called one of the pillars of financial markets.
markets are forward looking. This is one of the pillars of financial markets, both stock markets and commodity markets as well.
- He said the one past case with a prolonged oil subsidy turned the shock into macroeconomic instability.
The only instance in this three scenarios where an oil subsidy was given for a prolonged period of time and the global oil shock was turned into a macroeconomic instability event.
- He said he researched the 1990 oil shock.
I remember in 1990 when I was doing my research
- He said petrol used to cost about 9 rupees per liter and rose to 23 as crude oil rose from about $15 to $35.
petrol used to be around 9 rupees per liter and it was increased to 23 because crude oil also increased from around $15 to $35.
- He said inflation was around 7% and rose to 14 to 15% when the oil price more than doubled.
Even back then, our inflation was around 7% and when the oil price doubled, more than doubled actually, 9 rupees to 23 rupees, it increased to 14 to 15%.
- He said the State Bank did not cut rates almost a year earlier, when inflation was 3 to 4%.
We remember almost a year ago, we were seeing inflation numbers of 3 to 4% as well, but State Bank did not decrease the interest rates.
- He said the latest T-bill and PIB auctions point to rates near 12%.
the latest auction which has happened for T-bills and PIB's, they are still indicating that interest rate should be around 12%.
- He said the level of escalation cannot continue for much longer.
First is that the level of escalation cannot continue for this much longer.
- He said Pakistan has no major devaluation unless its reserves fall below $10 billion.
unless we go below $10 billion of reserves, there won't be any major devaluation in Pakistan because that's how decisions are taken over here.
- He said Pakistan tends to devalue only when it has no other option.
So we are kind of of a habit that we only devalue when we have to devalue when we have no other option.
- He said he cannot recall a devaluation in the last 30 years when reserves were below two months of import cover.
I don't remember in last 30 years any devaluation where our dollar reserves were below two months import cover.
- He said reserves would still be about 2.5 months of import cover after the Eurobond repayment, even without new funding.
So even if we have to repay the UAE loan and we don't get any additional funding from China or Saudi Arabia, still we will be at 2.5 months import cover including the Eurobond repayment as well.
- He said the UAE dirham and the hawala rate both traded around 77 rupees recently.
A few months back, the UAE dirham was around 77 rupees in the interbank market and the hawala rate was around 80. Right now, both of these are trading around 77.
- He said actual remittance inflows have increased during the conflict.
the actual inflow of remittances has increased.
- He said in COVID, informal remittance channels moved to formal ones and the currency appreciated.
Because of the lack of flights, all the informal channels converted to the formal channels and we actually experienced appreciation of the currency in that time.
- He said the real remittance impact is likely to play out over three to nine months.
I think the real remittance uh you know, eventuality is going to start playing out in three to six to nine months
- He said Pakistan has good relations with Saudi Arabia and plays a major role for its economy and security.
we have really good relations with Saudi and I think we are we are playing a very major role for their economy and their security as well.
- He said the biggest indicator of foreign reserves is the relationship with the IMF.
The biggest indicator of foreign reserves is actually your relationships with IMF.
- He said an IMF staff-level agreement came while Pakistan was giving an oil subsidy.
And this time staff level agreement was announced when we were giving an oil subsidy.
- He said devaluation is more than 50% likely if reserves reach around $10 billion.
in case we reach reserves level of around $10 billion, then I would say that the chances of devaluation are more than 50%.
- He said demand contracts with the pump price, not with the amount of tax collected.
what determines your contraction in volume is not the amount of tax you are collecting but the actual price at the pump
- He said that instead of devaluing, Pakistan brought down the open-market rate.
instead of devaluation we went for bringing down the open market rate.
- He said 70 to 75% of the diesel Pakistan uses is refined locally.
70 to 75% of the diesel we use is actually refined locally
- He said Pakistan now imports crude at about $150 a barrel and refines it locally, instead of importing diesel at $250.
we are not importing diesel actually at $250. We are importing crude at $150 and then refining it locally
- He said refinery profits would rise a lot, making refineries a beneficiary of the conflict.
So that is actually if we look it from an investing angle a very good scenario for the refineries because their profits are going to increase a lot.
- He said all refineries except one are listed on the Pakistan Stock Exchange.
other than one all the refineries are listed on the Pakistan Stock Exchange as well.
- He advocated capping the diesel refining margin at around $60 to $70 during the wartime period.
instead of fixing margins I am more of an advocate that you should use your wartime economics hat and maybe cap this margin to around $60 to $70
- He suggested reducing or capping diesel margins for two to three months.
maybe reduce or cap the diesel margins for the next 2 to 3 months.
- He said about 5 million barrels of Saudi oil is now exported through the Red Sea.
Saudi Arabia, 5 million barrels of oil almost is now being exported through the I think the Red Sea.
- He said some wars have lasted 10 to 20 years, though escalation has to come down.
There are instances where wars have lasted for even 10 years, 20 years, but the level of escalation has to come down.
- He said the urea bag price will rise by 200 to 300 rupees because of diesel-driven transport costs.
Only the transportation element because of the diesel price hike the fertilizer bag of urea will increase by 200 to 300 rupees per bag.
- He described an unwritten contract: fertilizer makers get gas at a set price and raise bag prices only on cost increases.
There is an unwritten contract that because we are giving you gas at a particular price that is not linked to the international LNG price then you should keep your margin and only increase your bag price if there is a cost escalation.
- He said global urea is around $900 a ton, while Pakistan's price converts to about $350 a ton.
right now I think urea prices are around $900 per ton but in Pakistan if we convert it into dollars that would be somewhere around $350 per ton.
- He said Pakistan is one of the largest urea users in the world, at around 6.5 million tons.
because we have a population of 250 million I think we are one of the largest users of urea globally as well around 6.5 million tons
- He said Fauji Fertilizer and two other fertilizer companies are not affected by the conflict.
these companies the Fauji Fertilizer, the Engro Fertilizers and even Fatima Fertilizer all of these all of these companies are not affected by this conflict
- He said fertilizer companies get fixed-price gas, so their supply is secure.
because these companies get fixed price gas the supply is good
- He said fertilizer companies pay out their earnings as dividends because no new gas is allocated for new plants.
because they are not investing in a new urea plant because there is no more additional gas allocation in the country everything is paid out as dividends.
- He said price controls on wheat and sugar have reduced productivity, while deregulated corn has been a success.
the price controls on wheat, sugar they have reduced their productivity and the deregulated crop I think it's the corn has been a really big success story.
- He said pricing, regulation and politics, including votes from farmers, are a big inefficiency in agriculture.
So pricing, regulation, politics and all those things vote bank getting votes from the farmers that's a big inefficiency in the Pakistani agriculture sector
- He said urea is the star fertilizer and DAP use is lower than it should be.
So urea is the star product and we don't use as much as of DAP that we should because DAP is still imported.
- He said a urea price shock could lead to black marketing and hurt food security.
if they get a price shock on urea then there will be black marketing your food security will get hurt.
- He suggested raising urea toward international prices, with targeted subsidies for small farms.
you increase the price of urea to international level at a time when it is around $400 $500 and start giving targeted subsidies to farmers who have very small farms
- He said food prices should be deregulated.
You have to deregulate the the food prices.
- He said he is not a proponent of exporting urea, because that means exporting gas.
I wouldn't be actually a proponent of export and that's because right now if you are exporting urea you are actually exporting gas.
- He said Pakistan's gas power plants are not working, so coal and furnace oil plants are used instead.
So we are already in a situation where our gas power plants are not working and we are using our coal power plants, our furnace oil power plants.
- He said the best case is to run all fertilizer plants, especially urea, with the gas available.
we run all our fertilizer plants especially the urea plants with whatever gas we have
- He said many APIs used in medicines are linked to oil prices.
because a lot of APIs are also linked to oil prices
- He said the coal price has not yet had a shock, but a rise would hit the current account.
So we haven't seen a price shock in coal as yet but if that increases that will have some impact on the current account as well
- He said EVs could cut oil imports and free up room for capacity payments.
EVs are a great alternative they will potentially help us with import substitution of oil as well as providing space for capacity payments
- He said that if escalation continues he would favour fertilizer stocks, banks and refineries bought at good prices.
So in that case if the escalation continues I'll be investing in fertilizer stocks, I'll be investing in banks which are available at good prices and then the refineries as well.
- He said that if escalation continues he would also look at cement and automobile companies priced very low.
If the escalation continues I will also be looking at cement companies, automobile companies which are available at very low prices.
- He said that with de-escalation he would favour stocks that have fallen sharply.
If we go towards de-escalation mode in the next one month then I will be more interested in stocks which have declined a lot
- He said the PSX index heavyweights are oil and gas exploration, banks and fertilizer companies.
the major heavyweights are oil and gas exploration companies, the banks and the fertilizer companies.
- He said refinery profits would rise more than exploration profits if escalation continues.
Just a hint that refinery profits if these escalation continues will increase more than the oil and gas exploration companies
- He said there is a saying that pessimists sound smart, but optimists make money.
there's a famous quote that pessimists sound smart, but optimists make money.
- He said following the news for a month does not make someone a forecaster.
You cannot become a journalist or a foreseer in one month just by following the developments.
- He said his research shows the bottom is in, though volatility will continue.
because like our research also shows that the bottom is in, but there will be volatility.
- He advised investing a fixed amount in good companies and reviewing it after six months.
then just invest that in the market in good companies and then see it after 6 months
- He advised against selling when the market is down and buying back when it is up.
You cannot like sell when the market is down and then buy back when it's up.
- He advised doubling down on public transport, which he said would solve many of Pakistan's problems.
double down, triple down on public transport. The day you have public transport in Pakistan, a lot of your problems get solved.
- He said Pakistan has around 30 to 35 million motorbikes.
even if you look at the number of motorbikes that are in Pakistan, there are around 30 to 35 million.
- He suggested making transport free for now and possibly recovering half the cost later.
So it's much better uh to build a public transport network, make it free for the time being. Once people get used to it, maybe you can recover 50% of the cost.
- He suggested public transport run from about 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m.
if we have public transport from uh let's say 7:00 a.m. till 11:00 p.m.
- He said shops in Pakistan often stay open until 2:00 or 3:00 a.m.
the shops open uh remain open in Pakistan till 2:00 a.m., 3:00 a.m.
- He said his team had made a video on the index and the macro, and would make one on individual sectors the next week.
We actually, like I pointed out that we have made a very special video on the whole index and the macro. In the next week, we will be making on individual sectors as well.
- He grew up in Karachi, in a joint family.
My early life was in Karachi aur hum log joint family system mein jo hai bade hue.
- His family was in the steel industry.
Hum log steel ki industry hoti thi hum logon ki.
- The family business grew into several factories, and each was handed to a son.
phir humne ek factory lagai, phir do aur teen ho gayi phir sab beton ko ek ek de di
- He is the youngest in his family.
I am the youngest in my family
- He got good results in his O Level and A Level exams.
Toh O levels mein bhi ache results aaye, A levels mein bhi ache aaye.
- He went to the University of Warwick in 2012.
Phir main University of Warwick chala gaya tha in 2012.
- He has a background in Economics from the University of Warwick.
He has a background in Economics from the University of Warwick
- He is the Founder and CEO of ARN Financial Advisors.
the Founder & CEO of ARN Financial Advisors
- He is described as a value investor.
Joining us today is Abdul Rehman Najam, a value investor
- ARN Financial Advisors helps individuals and businesses navigate financial markets.
where he helps individuals and businesses navigate financial markets
- In 2015, when he came back, he looked at Pakistan's stock market and found its long-term returns very good.
Lekin jab 2015 mein wapas aaya phir maine iska dekha ke pehli dafa khol ke dekha ke Pakistan ki jo stock market hai na long term mein returns to bahut ache hain.
- He read investing books, including Security Analysis and The Intelligent Investor.
Security analysis padhi, yeh Warren Buffett ke teacher ki kitab thi. Intelligent Investor padhi, Peter Lynch ki bahut sari books padhi.
- He watched Berkshire Hathaway's annual meetings on YouTube.
maine na YouTube pe Warren Buffett ki company Berkshire Hathaway ki AGMs dekhi.
- He began attending companies' corporate briefings to understand their businesses.
maine companies ki corporate briefing start attend karna start ki unka business understand karne ke liye
- He adapted the investing principles he had learned to the Pakistan market.
Phir maine woh sare jo principles the na unko Pakistan pe tailor kiya.
- He described 2019 to 2022 as the third phase of his ten years of learning, in which he understood the importance of practical investing.
2019 se leke 2022 was the third phase in those 10 years. Usme practical investing ki importance samajh aayi.
- In 2022 he began writing about the economy and businesses for the first time.
2022 mein pehli dafa jo hai economy aur businesses ke bare mein likhna shuru kiya.
- He said a community of 25,000 formed within two years and gave good feedback.
Toh in do salon mein 25,000 ki ek community ban gayi aur bada acha feedback bhi hua.
- His team wrote down its investing framework during this period.
Isi time mein hum logon ne apna investing framework bhi likha.
- He says the company has reached almost 1,000 people.
Aur ab almost 1000 people tak hum log pahunch gaye hain.
- ARN Financials focuses on financial literacy and investment management.
So basically financial literacy aur investment management ki hamari company related ARN Financials.
- ARN Financials runs an investing masterclass and advises people on their portfolios.
So isme investing masterclass bhi hai, logon ko hum log advise bhi karte hain
- He says the firm aims to guide people to invest in a scam-free way.
logon ko guide karna hai ke kis tareeke se aap scam free tareeke se jo hai woh kar sakte hain
- He says the reality of Pakistan's stock market is good, but its public story is poor.
Toh Pakistan stock market ki reality bahut achi hai. Lekin story bahut kharab hai.
- He says the reality of real estate returns is poor, though its story is appealing.
Isi tareeke se real estate ki reality bahut buri hai, story bahut achi hai.
- The firm holds monthly calls that last four to five hours.
hum logon ki monthly calls bhi hoti hain, almost char se paanch ghante chalti hain
- When a company joins the model portfolio, the firm sends a five to ten minute voice note explaining why.
usme hum pura ek detailed voice note paanch se 10 minute ka jo hai batate hain logon ko ke kyun humne isko add kiya hai
- Within two to three weeks, the firm uploads a 30 to 40 minute video on the company.
within two to three weeks jo hai uss pe ek detailed video 30 40 minute ki jo hai woh bhi hum log upload kar dete hain
- He says clients who have been with the firm for about nine to ten months invest, on average, over 40% of their savings.
jinko ab takreeban nau das mahine ho gaye hain. Average percentage savings invested is above 40%.
- He says the firm does not issue daily buy and sell signals.
Har din subah signals aa rahe hain yeh teen cheezein kharidni hain teen cheezein bechni hain. Aisa bilkul nahi hota.
- He says the firm's aim is to invest in Pakistan's top businesses.
We our aim is ke jo bhi top businesses hain na Pakistan ke usme invest karna hai.
- He follows Warren Buffett's principle of investing only in what you fully understand.
isme jo principle seekha tha na from Warren Buffett, invest in what you fully understand.
- His firm manages one-to-one portfolios for clients.
apni company ki jo one to one portfolio hum log manage karte hain
- He argues that the value someone creates through services can be 100 times their own portfolio.
The amount of wealth ya income ya value you can generate from creating services can be 100x of your own portfolio.
- He says Pakistani firms have had good past returns but rarely communicated with investors.
Humne dekha hai Pakistan mein even though returns past mein ache hain lekin communication hi koi nahi hai.
- He says financial influencers and advisors play a large role where investing adoption is high.
jin jaghon pe adoption zyada hui hai na of investing wahan pe financial influencers ya financial advisors ka bohat zyada role hai.
- He says that until three or four years ago, brokerage houses were the only advisors in Pakistan.
Toh Pakistan mein aaj se teen chaar saal pehle tak advisors nahi hotay thay wahi jo brokerage houses thay wahi advisors thay.
- He said most such scams run through crypto and similar products.
Zyada tar jo log is tarah ke scams waghera kar rahay hotay hain woh crypto, Binomo is tarah ki cheezon pe kar rahay hotay hain.
- He says Pakistan's index was about 1,000 on 1 January 1999 and is about 125,000 now.
Index was at 1,000 on 1st January 1999, aaj woh 125,000 pe hai.
- He estimates Pakistan's average GDP growth over 25 years was about 4% or less.
Most probably in pachees saalon ka average GDP growth I think chaar percent se zyada nahi hoga.
- He says the Pakistan stock market has returned about 125 times over the period he compared.
Pakistan stock market ne aapko 125x kar ke diya hai.
- He says the US stock market returned about 50 times since 1 January 1999.
So American stock market ne aapko 1st January 1999 se leke aaj tak taqreeban 50x kar ke diya hai.
- He cites Meezan Bank as a stock that gave strong returns over the past 10 years.
Jaise Meezan Bank ki example hai. Pichle 10 saalon mein na usne bada acha return diya hai.
- He cited a petroleum company, since renamed an energy company, as having a very good long-term return.
Jaise Mari Petroleum ab Mari Energy ho gayi uska long term return bahut acha hai.
- He estimates that about 350,000 accounts are open directly with brokerage houses in Pakistan.
I think we have reached 350,000 accounts jo ke directly brokerage houses mein khule hue hain.
- He says the advisory services have more than 300 members, or around 1,000 including the masterclass.
So, in our advisory services more than 300, aur agar usme investing masterclass bhi include kar lein toh phir around 1,000.
- He says the firm launched its advisory services in July 2024.
hamare jo humne July 2024 mein advisory services jab launch ki thi
- The investing masterclass launched in August 2024 with its first batch.
August ka mahina tha 2024. Pehli dafa investing masterclass jo hai na woh launch kiya tha pehla batch tha hamara.
- He says the firm avoided telling clients that a 70% one-year return would repeat.
humne pehle saal mein hi instead of logon ko bolen ke yeh dekhen aap 70% return aa gaya ek saal mein agle saal bhi aise hi aayega
- He says the firm's investing framework has a third pillar, which he calls the concept of best investment.
humne unko apne investing framework ka jo third pillar tha na woh explain kar diya that is concept of best investment
- He says an advisor's job is analysis and best advice, not guarantees.
advisor ka kaam sirf analysis hai. Woh aapko kuch jo hai na guarantee nahi kar sakta. Woh sirf aapko best advice de sakta hai.
- He says investors should judge each company's long-term ability to make profit.
Aapne basically har company ka profit making ability for the long term judge karni hoti hai.
- He compares researching the stock market to journalism, and calls the stock market a puzzle.
I say stock market is like a puzzle and journalism is the same.
- He says the first investing step is fully understanding each company's back-end business.
So yeh first step hota hai ke aapne companies ko na pura samajh lena hai.
- He says the second step is judging the level of undervaluation.
Second step hota hai you have to judge the level of undervaluation.
- He says investors should act only when the key factors of a company change.
You only have to take action when those things change.
- He says he is very bullish on Pakistan for 2050 and 2055.
I'm very bullish on Pakistan in 2050, 2055.
- He names a young population as one of Pakistan's two main strengths.
Pakistan ke paas do cheezein hain. Ek young population.
- He says commercial Bitcoin mining is not viable in Pakistan.
So commercial mining Pakistan mein viable nahi hai aur ho bhi nahi sakti.
- He argues that if Bitcoin becomes digital gold, its return over 25 years could not exceed about 25 times.
agar aap isi cheez mein believe karte hain, aap sabko jaake kehte bhi yahi hain ke yeh digital gold banega, toh phir iske returns 25x se zyada nahi ho sakte 25 years mein
- He says crypto has no inherent value creation and no productivity.
Crypto mein toh main waise hi aap inherent no zero wealth creation hai, zero productivity hai.
- He argues that crypto is harder to understand than stocks.
I would argue ke crypto ko samajhna toh stock se bhi zyada mushkil hai.
- He said he always tells people that Ray Dalio has written a very strong book.
main hamesha logon ko yeh kehta hun ke Ray Dalio ki ek badi zabardast kitaab hai
- He says the average return in Pakistan's boom cycles is 30 to 35%.
jo boom cycle hai na uska average return hota hai 30 se 35%
- He says politics is the fourth pillar of his market framework.
Aur fourth pillar of this framework is politics.
- He says his team's formula, 20 minus the interest rate, fits Pakistan's market well.
ek formula hum logon ne 20 saal ki research ki bara acha baithta hai, 20 minus interest rates
- He says no major structural reform has happened in Pakistan in the past 25 years.
pichle 25 saalon mein koi structural reform nahi hua
- He says Pakistan faces low political risk from the Iran and Israel conflict.
isme political risk Pakistan ka nahi hai. Bahut low chances hain Pakistan ne isme involve hona hai.
- He says sustained oil prices above 80 would make things hard for Pakistan.
agar long term ke liye oil prices 80 se upar rehti hain toh woh thoda sa mushkil ho jata hai Pakistan ke liye
- He thinks oil prices are most likely to stay between 60 and 65.
zyada chances yeh hain ke jo higher level pe jo pricing decision hua hua hai, that is ke 60 se 65 ke beech mein rehna hai
- He says trading carries about a 90% chance of loss.
Trading karne mein 90% chances hote hain ke aapke loss honge.
- He thinks about 90% of people can do long-term investing.
woh I think 90% log kar sakte hain
- He describes technical analysis as a battle with other market participants.
Technical analysis mein you are in battle with the other participants.
- He says investing is ultimately a game of conviction.
its all a game of conviction ke aapko kaun si asset class sabse acchi lagti hai
- He says the firm has made detailed videos on 10 to 15 companies.
we have made more than like 10-15 companies ki detailed videos
- He says the firm's first clients included several of Pakistan's top business owners.
our first two, three people, jis jab humne subscription package start kiya usse pehle bhi, woh log the jo ke Pakistan ke top business owners the
- He says the firm answers members' weekly questions through voice notes, which it calls collective wisdom.
aur phir woh voice note ke through sab ko jawab jata hai, jisko hum kehte hain collective wisdom
- He says the firm provides recorded course material for members.
toh hum log sab cheezein jo hain recorded provide karte hain
- He argues that part of Pakistan's economic growth problem is that people do not invest.
Pakistan ka jo masla hai na economic growth ka uske peeche ek reason yeh bhi hai ke hum investing nahi karte.